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In LA Tomorrow…(Wed 1/24) at LACPUG
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[Michael Gissing] “If that is the reaction then Apple may have wasted a lot of development time on giving X editors a tool that they don’t really need.”
Huh?
At worst, Michael – this issue appears to effect one range within one tool in the 10.4 update.
There are dozens of other tools that aren’t effected at all. The new white picker, the innovative way you can set a color centerpoint of a range by clicking on a pixel value and effecting a boost or cut around that, all the new curves, the tools like the Hue vs Hue replacement – these are all “new to X” and work wonderfully. Including for “rudimentarily schooled in color” editors like me who never felt knowledgeable enough to do much color manipulation beyond super quickly fixing gross exposure and obvious color casts via the color board and X’s scopes before.
We’re kinda back in the realm of Cindy Crawfords mole to me. It’s a flaw if you stare at that to the exclusion of the rest. But it certainly doesn’t DEFINE the whole.
Maybe that’s why the folks at the LACPUG meeting didn’t focus on this topic much. The screen showed great looking footage. Done (including the Grading!) with 10.4.
So Ipso facto, you can get a superb product out of it as it stands – working with modern RAW footage files.
Maybe that’s all that really matters to a whole lot of next gen editors?
FWIW
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Bill Davis] “Huh? At worst, Michael – this issue appears to effect one range within one tool in the 10.4 update.”
Luma and gamma are the first controls graders reach for. Most editors are working in Rec 709 so the fact that gamma is the problem, a lack of reaction to it not working properly is a clear indicator that the wheels are not a big deal or that perhaps many are just ignoring them and using an alternate plugin. Either way Apple may have been better off reacting to things that editors are requesting that there are no alternatives to.
Of course people complain about bugs if it affects their workflow in a major way. So I stand by my opinion that the wheels are not a big deal or I expect there would have been more complaint.
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[Michael Gissing] “Luma and gamma are the first controls graders reach for.”
Fair enough.
Then again, before X, creating a new timeline was the FIRST step I did on every single project I completed for more than a decade.
Today, I edit, keyword and prep for sometimes half of what turns out to be my entire final edit schedule before any storyline even exists – yet I get my overall work done much faster.
The point is that learning to change “the first tools…” I had previously conditioned myself to reach for – was one of the things that actually made the biggest difference in my productivity.
Maybe those kids building those films had trouble getting their luma and gamma right.
But maybe it wasn’t an issue and they somehow got their pictures on the screen with those totally decent looking grades without any sort of struggle at all.
Only thing for sure is that eventually, time will tell how these new versions of coloring manipulation tools settle in.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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Here’s some more information about the student project:
And this is a video from the Apple newsroom:
– Ronny
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[Bill Davis] “Only thing for sure is that eventually, time will tell how these new versions of coloring manipulation tools settle in.”
Without getting into the whole color issue again, I think it’s fair to say that if having the best color tools at your disposal is critical, then Resolve or Baselight are the way to go.
But as it stands, FCPX provides enough internal tools to deliver solid results, even though there may be some flaws. Ultimately, you can avoid the wheels – or part of the wheel controls – and still use everything else, and be a happy camper. Maybe not as fast, but given the target user, well within reason for Apple, I presume.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “but given the target user,”
And what does THAT mean?
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Visual Storyteller
https://vimeo.com/channels/1322525
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[Scott Witthaus] “And what does THAT mean?”
Hard to say, because I think that definition has evolved over the last 6 years. Certainly NOT the FCP7 user. More along the lines of the featured filmmakers.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Scott Witthaus] “And what does THAT mean?”
People that don’t often have intensive CC needs? If they did they’d probably use another tool like Color Finesse or Resolve.
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[Andrew Kimery] “People that don’t often have intensive CC needs? If they did they’d probably use another tool like Color Finesse or Resolve.”
I think this is correct.
Users who have had a long history of color work and who legitimately want to keep working as closely as possible to the way they always have – will have some discomfort to confront.
Those who have less prior conditioning – will simply aporoach the new tools as they are and feel “this is how it works” and not really notice any issues.
That description, by the way, applies to many aspects of FCP X. ????
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Bill Davis] “Those who have less prior conditioning – will simply aporoach the new tools as they are and feel “this is how it works” and not really notice any issues.
“If they use the color wheels and get used to those they’re going to be in for a bad time if they ever move to any another system, or use any third party plugin with wheels!
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Michael Hancock
Editor
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