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  • Importing ALE

  • Richard Sanchez

    July 23, 2011 at 1:24 am

    I’m used to capturing and import footage in Avid, however I’m about to start a new project that is going to provide with a hard drive with my Avid media in DNX36 format with ALE files.

    My inclination was to import the ALE files and then consolidate them onto the Unity. Somebody also suggested that I copy the media at the finder level into my Avid Media Files folder, delete the database files, and then relink the master clips from the ALE to the media on the Unity. Does anybody have experience with this workflow that could help? Thanks!

    Richard Sanchez
    North Hollywood, CA

    “We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution.” – Bill Hicks

  • Michael Phillips

    July 23, 2011 at 3:46 am

    Which system created the ALE files? What was the master file format to begin with before transcoding to DNXHD 36?

    Michael

    Michael Phillips

  • Shane Ross

    July 23, 2011 at 4:22 am

    Wait, why would you mix at a different frame rate than you are editing? That seems like a recipe for disaster.

    Shane

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  • Shane Ross

    July 23, 2011 at 4:22 am

    Ha…sorry, I replied to the wrong post.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Job ter Burg

    July 23, 2011 at 8:14 am

    I did a film last year where the TK house provide me with Avid mediafiles (DNx36) and Avid bins. I copied the files onto Unity partitions.
    I think that Consolidate will do a checksum copy, and a regular finder copy is just a regular copy. So Consolidating might be the safest way to go.

  • Richard Sanchez

    July 23, 2011 at 9:31 am

    [Michael Phillips] ” Which system created the ALE files? What was the master file format to begin with before transcoding to DNXHD 36?”

    35mm (4 perf and 3 perf) scanned to DPX files, then converted to DNX36. Not sure what system is being used to scan.

    My main concern was that running consolidate would lock up the bay, where is if I could do it at the finder level, I could conceivably still work while it copies. That said, I didn’t want to screw with Avid’s system for managing MXF media in it’s numbered folders.

    Richard Sanchez
    North Hollywood, CA

    “We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution.” – Bill Hicks

  • Richard Sanchez

    July 23, 2011 at 9:34 am

    [Shane Ross] “That seems like a recipe for disaster.”

    I agree. I was confused in my interview when they said they need the AAF at 29.97, in that I know I’ve given OMFs to mix houses based on 23.976 media. If it weren’t the twelfth season of a long running show I wouldn’t question it.

    Richard Sanchez
    North Hollywood, CA

    “We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution.” – Bill Hicks

  • Andrew McKee

    July 23, 2011 at 10:44 am

    It’s a case of choosing the slow and safe option or the fast and notsosafe option. I’ve used the drag into the MXF folder and delete the mdb option alot to put training material onto student machines and never really had any problems. But I wasn’t working with masses of media, just a relatively small amount.

    Andrew McKee
    Editor/Colourist
    Avid Certified Instructor – MC5.5
    Apple Certified Trainer – FCP7
    Pixelwizard.net

  • Michael Phillips

    July 23, 2011 at 11:46 am

    MC defaults to putting all files into MXF/1 until it reaches a certain number of files (I can’t remember right now) then flows over into a second folder MXF/2 etc. On some projects, I have started numbering my mediafiles at 10 leaving the first 9 for MC. So try the following (on a standalone system, not Unity):

    Create a “10” folder in Avid Mediafiles/MXF folder
    Copy MXF/DNxHD media to the folder
    Launch MC, open MediaTool
    Drag MXF files to bin

    Check timecode at that point to ensure they are correct. This is what the system creating the media is inserting into the MXF file.

    Open the ALE file and ensure that first frame of same clip is the same timecode. Perhaps there is an error in the ALE and not the MXF.

    If correct, select clips in bin, go to import, set options on AL to “merge on known sources” (last option), then import ALE. All additional metadata in ALE that did not exist in MXF will now be attached to the files.

    Michael

    Michael Phillips

  • Job ter Burg

    July 23, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    I label the MXF files by shooting day. So picture for day #1 is 101, sound for day #1 is 201, etc. Easier to separate sound and picture media too.

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