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Importing a ProTools session in PremierePro
Hello everybody.
My problem is when i listen in premiere an 24/48Khz .wav multiple mono file exported from pro tools (no effects, no nothing on it), it’s ugly, flat and ‘less stereo’ comparing to the original file directly imported and listened in premiere.
Is there a way to export a kind of “xml” file from pro tools that i can import in premiere so it can automatically rebuilt the big cut work done in pro tools? If no what is your way of doing that thing well? How can i improve it? If the only solution is to cut and edit my sound directly in premiere, well it’s bad news..Thank you for your answers.
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8 Replies
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Export AAF or omf from prototools and import in premiere.
Massimo Alberto Croce
Video Editor, Colorist, Pro Tools Editor
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I have tried and it doesnt work well. The new sequence created in premiere with an AAF file is a big mess : all the original raw files + fades are following each other in a very long line and on the end, a one block PT session, with no cut, no mix, no nothing.
Tell me if it works for you. OMF files are not read by (my?) premiere.
The only trick i’ve found is import the OMF in audition and tadahhh : the pro tools cut and editing is here but no key frame volume mixing, no fade, cross fade etc (in fact they exist, each fade is now a cut.. so it needs to be reassemble and re-faded..) but at least the cut is preserved.
pfff. I dont want to get rid of pro tools because it’s very handy but maybe premiere+audition is a good compromise. -
at what point in the work was the project passed to Pro tools?
traditionally this is after picture lock in edit…
not sure I understand your workflow here
Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX -
Ok, no mystery here. I edit the video in premiere and the sound in pro tools. I dont send my PP project in PT (no AAF OMF i know it’s the principal problem on google search), i just export a .mov for sound edit. When, in PT, the edit, cut, fade are ok, i export one .wav that i import in PP and done, video+sound are in premiere for final export. But i’ve realised that the .wav from PT listening in premiere is very not that good : essentially but clearly : less deep pan but more clipping. But in PT my mix is good and safe.
So to improve i am searching for a way to export my PT session with the cuts, fades, automation etc into premiere so i can have the edit/work done in pro tools into premiere but with the ability to re-link the sound media to their original files.
It’s like with the .xml file between premiere and davinci resolve. You only export the information about the cut and some other stuff, no media is touched/exported, and the quality is preserved.
But part of the solution is to go through audition, it can read the OMF file from PT. It’s a little bit messy in audition then (all the mix is gone, fades are translated as cut) but the general edit/cut and some information are preserved and medias are linked to their original, so it’s a start.
Do you have a better solution, how do you do? My next project is now edited in audition for easier round-trip. -
yes… but even in a resolve workflow….
it’s PPro > resolve….
not resolve > PPro (with edits anyway)…
tools that exist in one software don’t exist in the other…. So this is not possible.
I suppose you can pass stems (mixes of each Pro tools track) back to pPro with fx….
but you’d lose your edits…
I don’t think this works this way.
Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX -
Yes no easy solution here, but thanks Alex for answering and yes your right about .xml files between PP and Resolve. The solution will come from Avid and/or Adobe but we can dream about a Avidobe collaboration about that problem. AAF/OMF files between ProTools and Audition are so close to be perfect for an easy round trip. Kep trying ^^
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A reply from the future… (in case others stumble on this thread, like I have):
Nikola’s need was totally valid, so I don’t feel like an “Avid Answer” (“why would you want to do that?) was in place here. At least as of 2017, exporting from Pro Tools to Premiere (via AAF) should work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAJIP5Clp18One valid use case: I’m editing a music video of a live performance, which had 7 takes recorded in sync. The music editor made 13 edits from those takes, and I want the base of my picture edit to be the master shots corresponding to the sound edits, since I know lip sync would be perfect.
Besides…
even in a resolve workflow…. it’s PPro > resolve…. not resolve > PPro (with edits anyway)…Umm, ever heard of “round-tripping”? Been around since before 2015… As an online editor, I’ve been sending XMLs with edits back from Resolve to Premiere for years. It has its limitations, but it’s a common and useful workflow.
Round-trips (NLE>DAW>NLE or NLE>color>NLE) can be tricky and are not always the best workflow, but often they are.
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PS This company is known for making a software tool for alternative conversions:
https://www.aatranslator.com.au/You can go directly from ptx to xml, for example, or from prproj to ptx.
And one more tip, if a conversion between software A and B doesn’t always work or work well enough, an “intermediary” could help – for example Resolve can be surprisingly useful at transferring timelines between Avid and Premiere, sometimes giving better results than attempting a direct AAF import.
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