Importing a Hollywood movie into FCE

[Gunleik Groven]

Apart from the fact that I cannot see anyone agreeing to someone doing a re-edit of a finishd movie, you will not be able to edit what you rip with Mac the ripper (which by the way is not legal to use in te US for the purpose you’re using it…. As you’re not only copying copyrighted material, but even worse: intend to alter it…

You do have a format conflict and have to solve several format and other matters in how to use the files you have ripped.

Is it not possible to just show the movie as it is, and just skip the offending chapters?

Gunleik
(who would not be too happy if someone did something like that to something I had finished…)

[Mick Mueck]

OK, I guess I saw this coming. Maybe if there’s a moderator around then he/she can lock down this thread. I was just exploring a different way to let a couple 14 year olds watch this R-rated movie instead of having their teacher showing them the full version at school. Looks like I’ll have to revert to the old fashioned way of standing by with my finger on the fast forward button. Hopefully nobody here has ever recorded something on their vcr for personal use…

[Shawn Bockoven]

https://www.cleanfilms.com/about_buy.phtml could save you some time.

https://www.cleanfilms.com/pdf/responceToSummaryJudgmentMotion.pdf

Below is FYI not an attack.

You may make copies of music in the following circumstances:

You may make an emergency copy for performance in order to replace a purchased copy.
You can take excerpts for academic purposes other than performance. It must be less than a performance section, such as an aria or movement, and never more than 10% of the whole.
You may make a single copy of performances for evaluation purposes
You may make a single copy of a sound recording for aural exercises or examination.
You may NOT create music anthologies
You may NOT copy consumables, such a music theory workbooks

Educators can use their own multimedia works in the following situations:
face-to-face teaching situations

assign them to students for self-study

in peer workshops and conferences

in a professional portfolio

for a distance study course provided it is over a secure network and there are security procedures to protect it from being copied.

You can use them for two years before having to get copyright permission for any works you used. They may not be copied and distributed for use by other teachers without obtaining copyright permissions. Even if distributed free of charge, it steps out of the boundaries of Fair Use.

Students can perform multimedia works for the class in which they were created. They can keep them in their portfolios forever.

There are fairly strict guidelines on how much of any one media can be used in a multimedia piece. Please go to More Information to study on it.

Shawn Bockoven

[Bouncing Account needs new email address]

[Mick Mueck] “Hopefully nobody here has ever recorded something on their vcr for personal use…”

Not the same thing.

A “backup copy” dub is not “editing”.

Our real problem here is that it is actually counter to the law to duscuss how to “get around” a copy-guard system.

OTOH, if you WERE able to dub the DVD to a VHS “backup” and just happened to pause the VHS deck during the “naughty bits” I don’t know who would complain.

😉

[Walter Biscardi]

[Mick Mueck] “I own this DVD already, and I was hoping to make a copy with the R-rated bits cut out (actually, something a bit cleaner looking than just cutting). I’ve already ‘ripped’ the DVD using MactheRipper, but I still can’t get FCE to do the import. Any ideas?”

Absolutely 100% illegal to do what you’re asking. Absolutely not smart to ask something like this in a public forum.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Ron Thompson]

Yeah… tough question for a forum like this…although I understand exactly what you’re getting at. For 14 year olds, I would suggest they watch the whole thing…naughty bits and all. There really isn’t anything naughty about Amistad to tell you the truth. Spielberg did a nice job telling a powerful story about the slave trade… (obviously more to the story). You would do the kids an injustice by editing its contents. Powerful story, Great acting… and if naked slaves in the bottom of a ship is naughty, well, this is the reality of American history.

Ron

[Mick Mueck]

Actually, the naked slaves part doesn’t bother me in the slightest. It’s the ~5 minutes of graphic killings and beatings that I’m sure got this film an R rating. Either way, we’re flogging a dead horse. Everybody here is telling me I’m engaging in criminal activity. I’m sure it won’t help in the slightest to repeat that my intentions are specific to a single school project, for personal use only, and that I buy all my software (even Microsoft stuff which I *really* hate) and movies (over 600 so far). Heck, I just purchased the mpeg2 component for QuickTime sight unseen because I thought it might help out here – but it doesn’t because it won’t handle the audio. I could have purchased the movie again for that money, but that’s not the point.

I appreciate the fine line between piracy and fair personal use. No doubt this is an endless argument and this thread is only going to serve to soak up unnecessary bandwidth. I still think the right thing to do is to close down this thread. Can somebody do this please? This is my last posting on this particular topic. No sour grapes here, I have found this forum to be an exceptional resource in the past and hope to continue picking your brains in the future 🙂

[Jeff Carson]

Mick,

There is an interesting film called “Confederate States of America” which was screened at Sundance and well received. In fact Spike Lee signed on as EP. It is centered around the concept that the Confederacy won the Civil War. I would deem it a good alternative, and I am certain the Director would love for a 4th grade class to see it… go to https://www.csathemovie.com/ and click on the picture of Spike Lee. This is a sly, tongue in cheek effort by a black University film professor, so even tough you might think it goes too far, keep looking into it. I am uncertain how you could purchase it, but I am sure there is a way to get a legitimate copy.

Jeff

[David Rowan]

Since I work in news we occasionally can use bits of movies in news stories under a rule called “Fair Use”. Playing from a standard DVD player through our capture device (AJA io) seems to get around copy protection.

There is a company in Provo Utah under a couple of lawsuits for renting edited versions of commercial movies. Its called “Clean Flicks”. Perhaps they have a copy of the film you want, and you can let their lawyers take the heat.

DWR

[Ron Thompson]

This is true, as a news man myself. But it has to be news worthy… like using “Karate Kid” because Pat Morita died– or Dukes of Hazzard because Nick and Jessica are separated. Its still a fine line and networks have to be careful. That’s why they all have great legal departments.

Hollywood will usually release movie segments during news worthy events like deaths. They put heavy restrictions and usage rights on stuff, that must be followed.

Ron