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Importing 7d footage into FCPX
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[andrew blackman] “Nevermind, thankyou so much Oliver! i figured out my problem”
Good to hear. It’s usually the little things 😉
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[andrew blackman] “So you’re telling me when I import the h.264 files i dont have to click the optimize media box?”
This is true. But I recall reading somewhere that your performance while editing may be improved if you are working in a ProRes format. When adding Effects, for example, FCP X will cause that portion of your video to be transcoded into ProRes anyway. So depending upon the processor power of your own configuration, you still may wish to optimize the media while working within the programme.
Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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Not true. Working in a higher codec can bring you benefits, like when doing titling, for example, or compositing. While its true you’re working with a base “layer” that is limited in information, whatever you “add” to that layer “wins” with the better codec and colorspace.
If you want the absolute best quality for your footage, there’s even a process to “upgrade it”: use a software like Red Giant Denoiser or Neat Video, apply a very slight denoise on the footage, but on a 10 bit 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 timeline. What the denoising software will do is actually “fill” the lack of information of the channels and do a gradient on the whole pictore, effectively making use of the whole color and bit depth. There are examples of this on the internet. It may produce in certain extreme shots some artifacts, but you really do gain in picture quality. Do a search on youtube.
This process, however, takes time and disk space. But if its absolute quality you want, try it.
Content is what matters.
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[Sergio Perez] “Not true. Working in a higher codec can bring you benefits, like when doing titling, for example, or compositing. While its true you’re working with a base “layer” that is limited in information, whatever you “add” to that layer “wins” with the better codec and colorspace.”
Yes you heard something about those benefits, but you didn’t catch it.Working in a higher codec doesn’t means a transcoding from the beginning by default.
Working in a higher codec basically means EDIT NATIVE and render as much Uncompressed as you can.
[Sergio Perez] “If you want the absolute best quality for your footage, there’s even a process to “upgrade it”: use a software like Red Giant Denoiser or Neat Video, apply a very slight denoise on the footage, but on a 10 bit 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 timeline”
You are right, but that “Chroma Smoothing’ and de-noising must be done on the raw footage.
What kind of “Chroma Smoothing” will you do to your H264 once is Prores HQ or 444?
YOU MUST DO THIS when you transcode your 420 to 422 or 444.
Once your footage is 422 or 444 YOU CAN”T DO IT ANYMORE.So that’s the real CRAP of FCPX.
Force you to convert 8b/420 stuff as 10b/422 (COMPRESSED) while you lose the opportunity of de-noising a smoothing the raw stuff.
One generation lost and hours of transcoding just to make FCPX to work.
What FCPX should be doing is supporting native editing of all the crappy formats that needs transcoding.
Native editing makes a difference when considering a NLE as Pro or less pro.
rafael -
FCP does not require transcoding. As Oliver said it edits H.264 as is. You can transcode if you wish, but the application does not need it to work.
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Coming in 2011 “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press -
[Tom Wolsky] “FCP does not require transcoding. As Oliver said it edits H.264 as is. You can transcode if you wish, but the application does not need it to work.”
You are right Tom.
I was thinking mostly on all the ACHD stuff.
rafael -
Same with AVCHD media. I’m editing it quite easily. The only thing FCP does is rewrap it into QuickTime, which it does as the material is being copied off the memory card or archive. There is no transcode if you don’t want it.
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Coming in 2011 “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press -
[Tom Wolsky] “Same with AVCHD media. I’m editing it quite easily. The only thing FCP does is rewrap it into QuickTime, which it does as the material is being copied off the memory card or archive. There is no transcode if you don’t want it.”
Again, I was wrong about this.
You are right my Everio footage has been re-wrapped.
The funny thing is that now I can bring that stuff to FCP.7 without crashing.
Before, the only way was transcoding with Clip-Wrap.
Re-wrapping with Clip-Wrap never worked for that camera.
Thanks again.
rafael
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