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  • Image & audio sweetening programs

    Posted by Carlos E. martinez on March 10, 2006 at 12:57 pm

    Which is the best methodology for making finer adjustments to image and audio, after editing in Avid Xpress?

    My idea is to use After Effects 7 and Nuendo to do these adjustments.

    Just now did I finish editing a 49-minute doc, where I made some basic corrections which were enough for this project. But more ambitious adjustments should be pursued thinking of more complicated projects, and this project might be my chance to learn how to. Stretching the boundaries, I call it.

    From what I read on some past mails, you need to export using something called Automatic Duck (is that inside AE?) or QT reference. Will that do for Nuendo too?

    Which is the best way to process the image doing less passes? Should I use the original shots, unprocessed and still not inside the edit or just pick the to-be-processed sequences or shots and export them?

    Image processing, particularing levelling lighter and darker areas, is one case. For instance: how can I apply something that might imitate a graduated ND to the sky? Or how do I separate an area to be corrected (up or down) leaving the rest intact?

    Carlos E. martinez replied 20 years, 1 month ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Geraint Pari huws

    March 10, 2006 at 4:49 pm

    depends on your budget…

    from my experience I would only use ae for short sequences/the obvious move if budget allows is to symphony/nitris.
    If you have to go the ae route then the duck is usefull to export seqs so that they reappear in ae as a timeline rather than one long layer, agian this could become daunting for a 49min piece!
    If you can work a shot at a time then ae will read qt references, but you will still have to render within ae and import back to express – don’t compress when you render!
    Your grad effects could be done within avid, three layers, v1 color correct/v2 colour correct, layer 3 a grad drawn in photoshop as a matte key to selectivly add parts of v2.
    Audiowise, chose a system that will read omfs, if you need a picture reference then you may need to export a downresed qt.

  • Carlos E. martinez

    March 11, 2006 at 10:09 pm

    amheus,

    Can you more specific on how I can do that? I never used Photoshop too much, but if it’s not too difficult I can try it.

    Perhaps a step by step explaining can take me there.

    I already designed a graduate screen in Photoshop and imported it onto Avid Xpress, placing it on a a higher layer. But it doesn’t show on the screen as it should, that is darkening the light area.

    What am I doing wrong?

  • Geraint Pari huws

    March 12, 2006 at 7:30 pm

    the best way is to export a frame to photoshop from the shot and use this as a guide to paint the grad,

    photoshop…
    bottom layer exported frame from avid
    create new layer
    paint black with soft edges over the area you need to col correct
    delete bottom layer(avid frame)
    flatten image
    this should give you a black and white grad with a soft edge, you could blur the whole image if necessary.

    import frame to avid
    v1
    untreated shot

    v2
    color corrected shot

    v3
    photoshop grad


    add matte key to v3(you may have to invert key in effect editor), this will reveal just the selected parts from the color corrected shot.

    you can produce similar results by forgetting photoshop and alt adding an animatte effect to v2.

    reply for more…

  • Carlos E. martinez

    March 13, 2006 at 11:00 am

    Some questions to see if I understand the process.

    1) I copy the same scene onto another layer, do all the process I want to do, then use a photoshop mask to let through only what I want?

    2) Why not add just the photoshop mask, to darken the area?

    Forgetting photoshop sounds like a good idea, as I am not getting the mask to work yet, but Avid Xpress has no animatte apparently.

    Can you suggest a different way to do this graduated effect?

    Explanation: this graduated effect would be applied to solve two separate problems.

    1) A too bright sky on the upper side of the frame. Adding a dusk colour would be nice too.

    2) Some horizontal lights on the background of a theatre stage.

    Both would be horizontal upper areas that might need to be moved up or down according to the shot. There wouldn’t be any movement, like zoom or pan.

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