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  • Michael Gissing

    November 27, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    [Eric Santiago] “So even a well put together PC didn’t do it for me.”

    This raises the whole point about choosing to build your own PC. It is about getting performance versus convenience of buying off the shelf. Computers are always getting relatively cheaper so it’s a no brainer that anything off the shelf that meets or exceeds performance requirements is not worth building. The fact that so many are choosing to build must tell you that the off the shelf option is not meeting requirements of performance or another issue like form factor or ability to be upgraded. It isn’t cost if you make your living with the gear because having better performance pays for itself in most cases, particularly for freelancers who quote for a job, not hourly employees.

    I build because I don’t need the Apple OS anymore and I can get such better performance and upgrade options that way. Yes it is cheaper, even factoring in my time to research and build. If I did need to run Apple OS I would be buying the best off the shelf grunt I could. I’m just glad I don’t need to but in the past I always went for the performance. Apart from the raw economics, I value my time and hate waiting for machines. It’s so important that it is fun and the flow is not disrupted.

    To Eric’s point, it’s also more than the spec of a machine. Anything that creates workflow bottle necks is a poor machine regardless of being custom built, off the shelf or the OS chosen. I would expect a custom machine to be better at avoiding such bottle necks but if they don’t then they are also a more expensive choice as our time is our greatest currency.

  • Andy Patterson

    November 27, 2017 at 11:57 pm

    [Bob Zelin]
    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1354215-REG/asus_gd30ci_db71_gtx1080...
    $2000, and no one is “custom building” a computer from scratch (with all the aggravation).”

    The reason this thread was all about building customs PCs is because the Apple users wanted to talk about custom PC. When all is said and done the $1,600.00 gaming PCs will offer a better bang for the buck than what Apple has to offer for video editing and 3D animation. No one has ever said that Apple computers don’t work but Apple does not offer the same options to the user as a the Windows system can. Should be a non issues but not in the Cow. Keep in mind prices are a tad bit high because the Coffee Lake CPUs are in short supply. The prices should drop slightly in a couple of months.

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227783&cm_re=i7_8700k_desktop-_-83-227-783-_-Product

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230270&cm_re=i7_8700k_desktop-_-83-230-270-_-Product

    If you don’t like the cases or the specs simply shop around : )

  • Don Scioli

    November 28, 2017 at 12:35 am

    For Shane Ross-
    Shane in your latest post you said ” Lately I’ve been delivering OP-1A MXF”. Are you doing this via FCPX or Avid?
    Since we have been delivering shows for PBS thru West link satellite, they want OP-1A MXF with closed captions, which FCPX won’t do. So I have to master in FCPX, get the CC into an AAF file, place the Pro Res file and AAF file into Avid and output to OP-1A MXF. It’s clunky but that seems to be the only way to do this. Do you know of an easier way?

    many thanks

    Don

    don@zanmedia.com

  • Shane Ross

    November 28, 2017 at 1:43 am

    [Don Scioli] “Shane in your latest post you said ” Lately I’ve been delivering OP-1A MXF”. Are you doing this via FCPX or Avid?”

    Avid. VERY easily done from Avid. I think Resolve will do this too. I’ll check tonight.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Greg Janza

    November 28, 2017 at 1:57 am

    MXF OP1a is also a default option within Adobe Media Encoder.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

  • Greg Janza

    November 28, 2017 at 5:38 am

    [Tim Wilson] “what is it about this cohort that makes them swing so disproportionately Mac-ward, since swing Mac-ward they clearly do.

    I think you’ve touched on the story behind the numbers Tim. This upward tick of Mac’s being used speaks more to the demographic of employees. The younger the employee the better the chance that they are a Mac centric individual. 20 years of Apple becoming a cultural force and a status symbol product has led us to the IBM statistic.

    I’ve witnessed this shift towards mac products even among my friends who are employed in all types of businesses and who aren’t in a young demographic. All of these folks used to have PC laptops and now at the tail end of 2017 all of these friends except for one (a lawyer) are the proud users of MBP’s. It’s the cultural shift of a generation that has caused the companies to evolve and change as well.

    But life is also filled with ebb and flow so perhaps this too is just a phase. I’m one of those folks who after many years had my fill of the Apple nonsense and abandoned ship. And I think the abandonment of Apple is also a real trend that is just beginning within the creative world.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

  • Dominic Deacon

    November 28, 2017 at 5:55 am

    Windows takes about 10 to 15 minutes in my experience. If you don’t believe me jump on youtube. There’s videos taking you through the process of building a pc in real time. These videos don’t run for two hours.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 28, 2017 at 5:56 am

    [greg janza] “MXF OP1a is also a default option within Adobe Media Encoder.

    And also selectable in FCPX. You can even deliver ProRes mxf if you’d like.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 28, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “I don’t follow. If I own a Hack and another Mac”

    How will your peripherals work on an old Mac? Your new Hackintosh will supposedly have everything inside of it.

    You can tell me that internal peripherals are better, and I will tell you not necessarily.

    If we used Hacks we’d need extra Hacks to be standing by in case of failure. Right now with our Macs I can swap the machine, and setup to all the same peripherals (including fiber storage) no matter if it’s a cylinder, laptop, iMac, the only thing that changes is performance.

    Hackintoshes don’t make sense in a multiuser, multiseat environment.

  • Tom Sefton

    November 28, 2017 at 12:18 pm

    I think a dog would have a better chance of building a PC that works than I would.

    Co-owner at Pollen Studio
    http://www.pollenstudio.co.uk

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