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  • iMac 27-inch Disk Upgrades and Configuration for Premiere and After Effects

    Posted by Wes Browning on December 18, 2011 at 1:31 am

    I posted this in the “What Computer Should I Buy?” forum, but this seems a better place for my question.

    I recently purchased 3.4GHz i7 Quad-Core iMac to use as my Premiere and After EFfects workstation. I’m taking it to a local computer shop to install some upgrades, and I’m wondering what the best configuration would be to get the best speeds for these two programs. Here are the current specs of the machine…

    3.4GHz Intel Core i7 Quad-Core
    16GB RAM
    1TB 7200rpm Hard Drive
    AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GPU

    There’s a known fan issue with upgrading the internal hard drive in current iMacs, so I’m going to keep the hard disk at 1TB. The iMac can handle up to two SSD drives (in addition to the hard disk). So, here are the two options I’m considering…

    OPTION 1
    SSD Drive – 240gb
    SSD Drive – ??gb
    Existing Internal Drive – 1tb

    OPTION 2
    SSD Drive – 240gb
    Existing Internal Drive – 1tb
    External Drive – 1tb RAID FW800

    With either of these options, I’m guessing the SSD would be the best for handling the OS and Programs. What I’m not sure about is how much better off I’ll be if I add a second SSD, or just use one of my 1tb RAID FW800 drives I have lying around.

    What’s the best option, and which files should I store on which disks?

    Dorian Mattar replied 14 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • John Young

    December 19, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    I am currently deep into researching a new machine of my own so hopefully some of this knowledge I have acquired can be useful to you.

    The single biggest boost to your system would be a Adobe certified GPU so you could use the accelerated Mercury Playback Engine. But from what I have found, that is not possible on an iMac. In fact the only Apple option for the MPE is a modified Mac Pro. (That is why I am probably switch from Mac to PC for this system).

    Other than that, you hard drive configuration can help. You want to avoid reading and writing to the same drive at the same time. For me, it helps to think of it in terms of a Program Drive, a Source Drive, and a Render Drive. I think the optimal Hard Drive situation is :

    Program Drive – Solid State Drive – for OS and programs only (240GB should be enough space) The research that I have done suggests that SSDs are not ideal for media storage and have not proven their reliability yet.

    Source Drive- 1TB Internal. This would be for media you are actively using. Ideally this would be a RAID system, but you can configure some sort of backup system if your internal drive cannot have a RAID configuration.

    Render Drive – Internal. This doesn’t need to be gigantic in size, but having it separate from your Source drive will really speed things up.

    Storage Drive – External 1TB RAID. I would use this as an output drive and to store media that you are not actively working on.

    I am not a computer expert, but I have been researching this stuff for two weeks now and feel like I have a bit of a grasp on this.
    Some links that I have found helpful.
    Premiere Pro Benchmark Resultshttps://ppbm5.com/index.html
    Adobe Forums- Hardware https://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/hardware_forum
    Hope it helps.

    John

  • Wes Browning

    December 28, 2011 at 3:15 am

    After discussions with my local Apple authorized service center, I came to the conclusion that the best configuration I could get in my iMac was a 240gb internal SSD and a 1tb internal SATA HDD drive.

    The service center wouldn’t do two SSD drives since it wasn’t a supported configuration. They also wouldn’t upgrade the 1tb drive to a 3tb drive without an Apple hard drive. Since Apple upgrades are twice, sometimes three times more than buying the parts off the shelf, I decided to keep the configuration stated above. They could upgrade the HDD, but doing so would result in disabling the fan control embedded in the Apple’s HDD firmware. That meant the fan would run all the time, which would get annoying after a while.

    With the above system, I’m adding a 4tb RAID-0 external drive connected by an eSata/Thunderbolt adapter from Sonnet (https://bit.ly/tQ7eSB). It seems this will give my external drive speeds between 1.5Gbps and 2.5Gbps. I’m not sure how this configuration will work since there’s no documentation on this setup, but will know when I do some speed tests.

    With this setup, I plan on using these drives as follows…
    – SSD: Operating System & Programs
    – Internal 1 TB: Previews, Media Cache, Exports
    – External 4 TB RAID: Media, Projects

  • Roger Burton

    February 2, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Hi Wes … how’s the new system going, I have a similar requirement, quite lightweight after effects use and am debating between iMac 27-inch 3.1GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5 and Mac pro (but I need the new mac soon and don’t really have the funds for the Mac Pro) – thanks if you can help. Roger

  • Wes Browning

    February 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Hi Roger-

    I ended up with the 27-inch (Mid 2011) 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7. It’s been a great machine for light to medium After Effects use. And of course Premiere screams with this setup.

    I didn’t upgrade the hard disk because the firmware Apple installs to it is impossible to put on other hard disks. That firmware is what controls the iMac fans. I’m told if you’re okay with the fans running all the time, which sounds like a jet engine, then upgrade the hard disk to whatever you need. I opted for an external eSata/Thunderbolt RAID (see below) instead.

    Here’s my setup…

    BASIC CONFIGURATION
    27-inch, Mid 2011 iMac
    Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
    Memory 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
    Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB (the 2gb upgrade that Apple offers)

    DRIVES
    System/Applications: 240 GB OCZ-VERTEX3 SSD
    Render/File Exports: Internal Seagate Barracuda 7200 SATA 3Gb/s 1TB Hard Drive (Apple installed)
    Media Source Files: OWC Mercury Elite Pro RAID with 2 Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 7200RPM 3.5″ Sata Hard Drives connected via eSata to Thunderbolt

    THUNDERBOLT ADAPTER
    Sonnet Echo Expresscard/34 Thunderbolt Adapter with Sonnet Tempo SATA ExpressCard/34 eSata card (https://bit.ly/zKfJQA and https://bit.ly/zKfJQA)

    My thunderbolt RAID adapter setup gets me satisfactory results. I’m getting write speeds of 60 MB/s and read speeds of 115 of MB/s. By comparison, my internal 1TB hard drive mentioned above is getting write speeds of 80 MB/s and read speeds of 107 MB/s.

    Hope this helps!

  • Wes Browning

    February 2, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    I should add that the 16gb RAM is what’s key to my Premiere and After Effects speed. I got the 16gb RAM for $100, but you could go as high as 32gb RAM if you’re willing to shell out around $500.

  • Dorian Mattar

    March 28, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    You could have used fan control software at a cost of $29. I’ve installed it and it works perfectly.

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