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Illustrator turns 25 today. Thoughts on it, Luddites and FCP X
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[Gary Huff] “[T. Payton] “Apple was truly aiming where the puck will be with FCP X, and many of us dislike where the puck is going to be. Like Luddiites (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite) we believe this new technology was a death sentence to our much loved craft. Some of us even lashed out, seeking some type of revenge upon the very ones proposing this new technology.”
Okay, I get it: you love Apple and probably believe that this mega-billion dollar corporation can do no wrong.
In the real world, just because something is new and shiny, it doesn’t automatically make it the future.
“I DO get a little tired of this naive, extremely patronizing notion that if you don’t embrace FCX with a 3rd degree tent pole, there must be something wrong with you–that you are some fuddy, unwilling to embrace the new, and that you stand there like MR D.B. Gumby, shouting “My Brain Hurts!” It is just such a shallow POV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIlKiRPSNGA
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That article on the Adobe site that this post linked to was interesting.
While I was reading it, I noticed it said that Adobe was co-founded by a guy named John Warnock.
So there REALLY IS a John Adobe! Fascinating… 😉
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“THAT’S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine… But after this windmill it’s the future or bust.” -
In the video, what are those large, bound stacks of paper with the software’s title on them? I think I’ve heard of those. Are those… manuals? Wow. Never seen one in real life. 🙂
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[T. Payton] “Let us not be Luddites.”
Pretty condescending stuff, there, dude. Let me offer you another view of what the future of FCX might have to offer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO-spuGvsAU
Just replace “Aguirre” with “Apple Pro Apps Division.”
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Obviously the term Luddite has morphed from a historical description to a term of derision for anyone who disagrees with your view on current technology. T Payton, you should know better if you have at least read some of the history of the Ludittes so I wonder why you have misrepresented so many here who have legitimate complaints about this software.
I am using Fairlight for sound post. Fairlight invented sampling back in the 1970’s so you could say it is like my grandfathers favourite axe – many heads and lots of handles later, it is still his favourite axe. Same with Illustrator and Final Cut X. No semblance of the original code and many variations in concepts and execution but the name sticks.
As to the future, your teas leaves are no more useful than mine and certainly not grounds to criticise others for whom this software is clearly not targeting. If that makes me a Ludditte, then after a 30 year career at the bleeding edge of testing beta software and promoting DAW and NLE workflows I accept your new definition with pride.
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[Herb Sevush] “or the Montage, of the Edit Droid, or D2 or ..”
Herb,
I never used the Montage or Edit Droid, but D2 was the king of post and playback, until DigiBeta took it’s place. I think it was a very successful format, which just became obsolete.
PRE READ forever!!!!!don walker
texarkana, texasJohn 3:16
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[Don Walker] “PRE READ forever!!!!!”
I remember pre read from my Online Editor days, I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread!
Steve Connor
“FCPX Professional”
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It took me a while to find this as I could not remember much about it.
from the article:
The word “Luddite,” handed down from a British industrial protest that began 200 years ago this month, turns up in our daily language in ways that suggest we’re confused not just about technology, but also about who the original Luddites were and what being a modern one actually means.
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Despite their modern reputation, the original Luddites were neither opposed to technology nor inept at using it.
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But the Luddites themselves “were totally fine with machines,” says Kevin Binfield, editor of the 2004 collection Writings of the Luddites. They confined their attacks to manufacturers who used machines in what they called “a fraudulent and deceitful manner” to get around standard labor practices. “They just wanted machines that made high-quality goods.”
Franz.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “straw man”
There’s no straw man there, which means he builds the contradictory point of view in order to knock it down. Instead, we get his subjective experience. This is not imply the existence of an entity named “objective experience.” (See also existential fallacy.)
Are you unconvinced by his inability to establish ethos? Perhaps.
He is also a fine contributor to the FCPX techniques forum and has obviously been using the software in an advanced way. His techniques actually work, and if he says FCPX makes him feel like it did when he learned Illustrated, then I believe him. In no way does he imply that you or I must also feel like he felt and feels.
While I’m on the topic, it’s really difficult for anyone who hasn’t actually worked (not toyed with, worked) in X to say anything convincing about it or critique it because it is impossible to establish ethos. Jim’s well documented issues are a fine example…as are mine. The absurdist line of reasoning (ergo, business decisions of folks who had to buy something) so far has been humorous and twinged with lament; as if Waiting for Godot is now Waiting for Apple.
To be sure: I really don’t care what editing system, power saw, hammer anyone uses.
I would however love to read the license agreements between apple and the developers who collaborated (if you will) to deliver FCP Legacy.
All in brotherly love!
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[Don Walker] “D2 was the king of post and playback, until DigiBeta took it’s place. I think it was a very successful format, which just became obsolete. “
That’s the point. A lot of things were popular for a few years and then became a sidebar in the evolution of post. If you invested all your money in D2 gear, you weren’t happy when NLE’s became capable of outputting broadcast quality signals, anymore than you would be if you had placed your bet on a Montage.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf
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