If you’re jumping to Windows – Something to ponder

[Craig Seeman]

[Lance Bachelder] “FCPX will NEVER be widely adapted in the pro world – it’s complete crap.”

In two years I’m going to respond to this post again. I remember in 1990 the facility I worked for said the same thing about Avid. A year later all their broadcast online moved to it even though it was still seriously lacking (and it was) at that time.

[Walter Soyka]

I have probably had more than my fair share of disagreements with Craig, but I have immense respect for his experience and intelligence. Craig is honest and realistic about the current strengths and weaknesses of FCPX, and though he may be more optimistic for Apple than most here, I think that his forward thinking (through the lens of his long and diverse industry experience) should be a welcome counterpoint to the bulk of the discussion here.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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[Chris Harlan]

[Lance Bachelder] “PS – Is Craig Seeman the biggest pest in the history of the Cow or what? FCPX will NEVER be widely adapted in the pro world – it’s complete crap.”

I fear, Lance, that you are speaking out of your hat. Craig, while far more an evangelist for FCP X than I could currently possibly be, has been fair and even-handed in his acknowledgments of FCP X’s weaknesses. We both have strong areas of disagreement about FCP X’s value, yet he has earned my respect, and further, I have learned things of value from him. Sadly, I find myself having to post statements like this more often than I would like.

[Tim Wilson]

I recall what my parents told my sister and me: “I don’t care who started it. CUT IT OUT!” Please. A moratorium on posts ABOUT posters. Please stick to the topic.

Apologies for repeating a few parts of this on other threads, but its important enough to warrant that. Let me add some clarity directly from HP. This is a spinning off of the Personal Systems Group. This is largely the stuff acquired from Compaq, as well as some products that came out of the Palm acquisition.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with Workstation Business Unit, which continues to expand. They have been in the process of doubling down with workstations, in this market and other workstation-targeted markets (research, medicine, architecture, animation, etc.), long before Apple created its own mess.

Yeah, yeah, HP advertises with Creative COW. That doesn’t make any of this any less true.

This is most certainly something to ponder for those considering jumping to Windows, and ESPECIALLY for those NOT pondering it. Maybe you should, at least on HP. Imagine that – a company that drops its gadgets and consumer product lines to focus on pros!

We can revisit this topic again when any other company decides to go this route.

[Walter Soyka]

A quick follow-up for anyone interested in the HP news.

The market pounded HP (the largest manufacturer of PCs) for pre-announcing they were looking to spin off or sell PSG. Their stock dropped 20% in a single day. HP claimed they felt they had to pre-announce the move because of SEC requirements, but analysts criticized HP for talking about the move instead of just making it.

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

[Walter Soyka]

Another HP workstation news tidbit I just ran across (for anyone still following this thread):

“At 42.9 percent of units, HP is now the undisputed king of the workstation market, clearly distancing itself from Dell at 34.8 percent.”

https://www.jonpeddie.com/publications/work_station_report/

Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

[Craig Seeman]

[Tim Wilson] “Let me add some clarity directly from HP. This is a spinning off of the Personal Systems Group. This is largely the stuff acquired from Compaq, as well as some products that came out of the Palm acquisition.”

Old thread but everyone one it should still get the update. I received an email from HP Small Business direct. It’s “The Spirit of a Start-Up. The Security of HP.” And, HP’s Personal Systems Group is the #1 Personal Computer Company. Today & Tomorrow.”
It points to this webpage.
https://www.hp.com/united-states/pc-matters/
and there on the bottom are three computers including the HP Z800

So the HP Z series seems to be part of the Personal Systems Group HP is spinning off/selling. Of course the email makes clear support will continue . . . but I wanted to point out that, as I suspected, Personal Computers means ALL HP Personal Computers including “Workstations.”

I am curious if PSG will eventually counter HP’s comment saying they won’t implement Thunderbolt. Acer and Asus have announced that they will be supporting Thunderbolt next year.