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If Premiere Pro was FCP8?
I’ve spent the last week editing on Premiere Pro and it got me thinking.
What is FCPX never happened and Apple had released something similar to the current Premiere Pro – would we have all been happy? Premiere Pro is very good, lots of stuff to like in it, I do prefer FCPX, for me it’s more fun and faster to edit with, it’s my my first choice to edit with every time, but honestly if it didn’t exist I think I’d have been more than happy with a PPro-alike FCP8.
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[Steve Connor] “What is FCPX never happened and Apple had released something similar to the current Premiere Pro – would we have all been happy?”
Yes.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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Resolve is the new FCP. Even has the same keyboard shortcuts. And stole some of its GUI from FCPX.
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[Morten Ranmar]”plus enhanced editions of Color and Soundtrack Pro.”
Resolve color grade tools are a bit more than an enhanced Color. Color was a good tool but it is not in the same league as Resolve for grading. And the Fairlight integration, when complete, will make Soundtrack Pro seem like a toy. I agree though that it is what everyone was expecting with FCP8. A complete edit & finishing tool without the roundtripping for Color or STP.
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Without a doubt there would’ve been no resurgence by Adobe and I’d probably still be cutting on a mac. So in reality, things worked out better.
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[Steve Connor] “What is FCPX never happened and Apple had released something similar to the current Premiere Pro – would we have all been happy? Premiere Pro is very good, lots of stuff to like in it, I do prefer FCPX, for me it’s more fun and faster to edit with, it’s my my first choice to edit with every time, but honestly if it didn’t exist I think I’d have been more than happy with a PPro-alike FCP8.”
We have to also mention FCS.
Many people at the time had thought FCS would get a revamped GUI for all the FCS programs. Most people thought the revamped GUI would give all the FCS programs a uniform look like the Adobe products. Some people thought there might even be integration between Aperture and FCP 8. None of that happened.
What did happen!
Premiere went 64 bit. FCPX went 64 bit. Premiere Pro had great metadata. FCPX got metadata. Premiere Pro made use of the GPU. FCPX made use of the GPU. Premiere Pro was codec agnostic since I can remember. FCPX is codec agnostic.
FCPX does make use of Quick Sync Premiere Pro does not. We can talk about the magnetic timeline and roles layout of FCPX but we can also talk about Adobe Anywhere and Adobe Story. In the end it is all personal choice. Some people prefer roles with jelly and others like a hot biscuit with butter.
The video below might be interesting to some of you.
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[Morten Ranmar] “And stole some of its GUI from FCPX.”
Didn’t really steal anything, from what I’ve heard they had some help from Apple, at least initially. All hearsay of course, but it makes sense. The fact that Resolve had native fcpxml import early on, and is now the only NLE that does is probably not a coincidence.
[Morten Ranmar] “and Soundtrack Pro.”
I really don’t get all the pining for STP, it had some great features, but I never used it to mix. The audio retiming/pitch preservation algorithm was amazing, and I have a feeling it’s still alive in FCP X, which is also amazing. Anyway, Logic is way better for mixing/sound design etc, and it now, finally, imports/exports fcpxml very nicely.
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[Steve Connor] “What is FCPX never happened and Apple had released something similar to the current Premiere Pro – would we have all been happy?”
[Oliver Peters] Yes.”Well yeah, ‘cuz we wouldn’t known there was a better way to do things… 😉
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Regarding Resolve as “FCP8”, I don’t think they are there yet. The biggest missing feature right now is the lack of being able to open multiple projects or being able to import sequences from other projects. That’s something Premiere Pro has also been weak on, although you can import sequences. In the upcoming version of Premiere Pro, you’ll be open to open multiple projects. FCP7 was still best in that arena and X maintains that advantage.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “The biggest missing feature right now is the lack of being able to open multiple projects or being able to import sequences from other projects.”
Actually you can in Resolve using the Dynamic project switching function. On the project load page right click a project and select Dynamic Project Switching. Then you can open multiple projects and dynamically switch between them from the File menu. As each project switches you can copy single or multiple clips to paste back in any project or copy a whole timeline and paste that into another project. Not quite as elegant as tab switching in Legend but it is what you are asking for.
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i think im the only person who doesnt like ppro. I dont why – i cant quite put my finger on it but it just feels kind of “janky” and that it could break any moment. Couple that with the constant audio dropouts, less than ideal interface (although very customizable), and a few other small naggy things – im not a huge fan. I was never super into FCP 7 either but thats what we had in college so I used it. Never really got payed to use it though once out in the job force.
That said I just took a staff gig using ppro full time so I have to dive in head first and I have and its getting better, and growing on me. Time will tell if it becomes a favorite and I use it on personal stuff but it defiantely seems like a natural progression to what FCP 8 couldve been and Im sure people who were never presented with X wouldnt have missed ti and carried on like normal.
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