I would like to increase my Rendering Speed, it seems pretty low to me

[Dave Osbun]

Your current render speed is normal, and unfortunately the only way to decrease it is to scrap your motherboard and CPU with an Intel Xeon CPU, which will run about $3000ish for the latest and greatest. And your render will only decrease by a small percentage.

Dave

[John Rofrano]

[Dante Colt] “My Gefore has Cuda and i could render with my Geforce, but both have exactly the same speed (i don’t know why either)”

That’s because your GPU is too new by Sony standards. If you are using MainConcept AVC, it doesn’t support any NVIDIA card made after the GeForce 5xx series. So one thing you can do to speed up renders is to use an older GPU.

[Dante Colt] “I know there are insane workstations out there, but i thought my PC is really strong and i was hoping to Render faster as i am know :(.”

You have a Quad Core processor. Those were first introduced in 2006 nearly 10 years ago. In 2010 the 6 cores came out. Now people are using 8-Cores and I have a 12-Core. Comparatively, 4-Cores aren’t really “strong” machines for tasks like video processing that can be highly parallel. They are really the minimum viable machine. Going from a 4-core to an 8-core really does 1/2 the time it takes render. So if you’re really concerned with render speeds…. get more cores!

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Sonic 67]

Sadly, your brand-new video card is useless in Vegas. Thanks to Sony lack of interest in updating a critical piece of software from December 2010 until now. Basically if your GPU is newer than that date, the MainConcept encoder will not use CUDA.

If you have two PCI-E slots, you could just add another videocard from 400 or 500 generation of GeForce and gain hardware acceleration.
I have used with success a GeForce GTS450, GTX480, a Quadro 2000, a Quadro 6000.

As for your CPU (I7 4790k), don’t worry, it blows out of water older Intel 6 cores (including many Xeons) or newer AMD 8 cores…
See here a benchmark:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
Search for 4790K – it has a score of 11,249.

What is even sadder is that your CPU has integrated a video encoder that can do hardware accelerated up to (including) 4k encoding.
Same goes for the integrated nvenc hardware in your GTX970!

Sony has no clue how to use those (or no interest), but a small Taiwanese company like CyberLink (PowerDirector13) knows!
You can test drive their software for free 30 days (and maybe post back the results)…

[Dante Colt]

I hope the way i’m replying, reaches all 3 of you :).

Thank you so much for the fast response & especially how far into detail you guys went.

Now i know a lot more and where to focus on.

I don’t really want to try another programm as suggested, it took me a long time to self teach me Sony Vegas. At this point i don’t feel like learning again from scratch in another programm :D.

I really want to say this again, i think you are a really nice Forum. Kind & Informative, that’s atleast for me a rare thing to find nowadays and also it’s important to point positive things out!
So thank you very much.

My last question would be:
The way i render my videos, with named settings. Is that the best i can do ? Quality & File Size wise ?

Or would you recommend me another “preset” to render with.

I really love quality, but i only have a 16.000 Speed Internet, so usually my videos are around 6GB big and it takes me 5-6 hours to Upload.

I would love to decrese the File-Size but not lose quality. “Barely noticable quality drop, i would be ok with, if it means saving 1GB in Size”.

I hope that was understandable :/

Dante & Holly

[John Rofrano]

[Dante Colt] “The way i render my videos, with named settings. Is that the best i can do ? Quality & File Size wise ?”

The thing that affects file size and quality is bit rate. IMHO your bit rate of 12Mbps is far too high. You could probably lower that to 8Mbps and keep the same quality. Do some tests and see. Lower the bit rate by 1Mbps and render until you perceive quality loss. Then increase it back by 1Mbps and that’s your lowest bit rate (and lowest file size) for the quality you expect. You may even get as low as 6Mbps and still like the quality. It all depends on how demanding your source footage is for maintaining details.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Dante Colt]

Well i read on Youtube Help, that they support now up to 50mb quality. If it’s true or not i can’t say.

May i maybe post you a link of a Video of mine ? (Seriously no advertising purposes, but maybe you can get a better picture of the Quality i upload).

So does the “Maximum Bitrate” matter at all ? As you mentioned the 12mb, which is my average.

Dante & Holly

[John Rofrano]

[Dante Colt] “Well i read on Youtube Help, that they support now up to 50mb quality. If it’s true or not i can’t say.”

Yes, it’s true but what does it matter? You asked how to reduce your file size because your Internet speed is slow. Creating bigger files isn’t the answer to your problem.

[Dante Colt] “So does the “Maximum Bitrate” matter at all ? As you mentioned the 12mb, which is my average.

“Yes, the maximum bit rate is the maximum number of bits that can be used for frames that need it. Obviously to conform to the average, if you exceed it in some areas up to the maximum, you must lower it in there areas to maintain the average. It’s a way of giving more bits to frames that need it while taking bits away from frames that don’t.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Dante Colt]

Oh i see, okay! 🙂

Thank you so much! =)

[Norman Black]

[Sorin Nicu] “Sadly, your brand-new video card is useless in Vegas. Thanks to Sony lack of interest in updating a critical piece of software from December 2010 until now. Basically if your GPU is newer than that date, the MainConcept encoder will not use CUDA.”

It is not Sony lack of interest here. To this day, Mainconcept has never updated their AVC GPU encoders to support newer architectures.

Mainconcept hard coded their encoders to specific architectures in both CUDA and OpenCL. They never wrote generic GPU code that would work on anything old and new. It is okay to have optimized versions for specific architectures, but one must always have a generic version that will always work on anything meeting a minimum spec.

[Sonic 67]

[Norman Black] “It is not Sony lack of interest here. To this day, Mainconcept has never updated their AVC GPU encoders to support newer architectures.”

So why Sony didn’t developed their own encoders to use GPU either? Is lack of interest in investing money, just in taking them.
nVidia and Intel have free SDK’s and libraries to build encoders using their hardware. Other companies use those successfully, even the free apps make use of them – maybe they should just hire the guy from Handbrake for example.