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  • I want to add a clip name text with timecode

    Posted by Mark Morache on February 21, 2012 at 4:49 am

    I want to create a video clip for logging that has the text of the clip name and the timecode burned into the video.

    In FCP7, there is a free app called “FInal Cut Pro Clip Labeler” that lets me lay all my clips in a timeline and export an xml, put it through the app, then back into FCP7. It creates a timeline with text clips over every video clip with the clip name. I can then add a timecode effect, and bingo.

    I imagine it might be easy for someone who knows xml to do the same in FCPX.

    Is there anyway to extract the clip name from a clip to create a motion effect?

    I can go back to 7 to create a logging clip, but I’m trying to life in an X world these days.

    Come to think of it, I have 7 to X. Maybe I’ll try running it through that, but it would still be very cool to have something that doesn’t require X.

    What do you think?

    ———
    Don’t live your life in a secondary storyline.

    Mark Morache
    FCPX/FCP7/Xpri/Avid
    Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
    https://fcpx.wordpress.com

    Andreas Kiel replied 14 years, 2 months ago 2 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Andreas Kiel

    February 21, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    [quote Mark Morache] Is there anyway to extract the clip name from a clip to create a motion effect?

    Using XML it is possible.

    – Andreas

    Spherico
    https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

  • Mark Morache

    February 21, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Yeah, I figured.

    So what would be involved in trying to automate this?

    Learn XML?
    Learn Xcode to create an app to take the xml and create the new xml with attached text clips?

    I would love to get into all of this someday, but I’m just struggling to keep ahead of my edit deadlines these days.

    I wish there were a way in motion to extract the title from the clip in motion, and insert it into the text field. Then it would be a simple motion effect to publish into FCPX.

    Any XML experts out there want to take this on?

    I only have 50 clips, so I’ve published a timecode window effect in motion with an extra text field I’m modifying by hand for the 50 clips. Much faster than learning how to code.

    ———
    Don’t live your life in a secondary storyline.

    Mark Morache
    FCPX/FCP7/Xpri/Avid
    Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
    https://fcpx.wordpress.com

  • Andreas Kiel

    February 21, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    [quote Mark]
    Yeah, I figured.

    So what would be involved in trying to automate this?

    Learn XML?
    That would be a good approach. It’s not that difficult.

    [quote Mark]Learn Xcode to create an app to take the xml and create the new xml with attached text clips?
    AppleScript is much easier. With Lion you also can create a nice interface.

    [quote Mark]I would love to get into all of this someday, but I’m just struggling to keep ahead of my edit deadlines these days.
    It’s the same for all of us – I know about that.

    [quote Mark]I wish there were a way in motion to extract the title from the clip in motion, and insert it into the text field. Then it would be a simple motion effect to publish into FCPX.
    Unfortunately there is no option for that.

    [quote Mark]Any XML experts out there want to take this on?
    For sure. I maybe one of them.

    [quote Mark]I only have 50 clips, so I’ve published a timecode window effect in motion with an extra text field I’m modifying by hand for the 50 clips. Much faster than learning how to code.
    Totally true and a good approach.

    But the main thing is to understand the structure of FCPX and how it works – and how tapeless does work or should work, with trackless it is the same, not forget secondary storylines, clip connections which include gaps connections and so on.
    It’s not a good idea to create a Motion Template for each clip, which is doable and will work, but for what price (meaning effort, storage space and cluttered interface in FCPX)?

    You should wait for a usable XML of FCPX and in the meantime learn XML and the other stuff.

    -Andreas

    Spherico
    https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

  • Mark Morache

    February 21, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    [Andreas Kiel] “It’s not a good idea to create a Motion Template for each clip, which is doable and will work, but for what price (meaning effort, storage space and cluttered interface in FCPX)?”

    Yeah. Actually I created one motion template that put on a timecode window, created a larger black box with extra room on the left where I put a text box that I could edit in my FCPX effect window.

    One motion effect, but I had to type in each clip number individually in FCPX.

    It went pretty quickly. A couple of minutes max once I created the motion effect.

    So, what would I need to do exactly to try to tackle XML, and the workflow I desire?

    I tried laying three five second clips on the timeline, and attaching a title clip to each one for the duration, and exported the xml. I opened it up in textedit, and upon first glance it looked too confusing. The first clip started at 0, and the xml says start=”13890877/24000s” ??
    offset=13890877/24000s ??

    I could see where the clips were, and where the text of the clip names could be modified, but I have no clue how to automate the process.

    If you had some suggestions about a learning curve I could follow, it would be a fun adventure I could take when I come up for air sometime! Thanks.

    ———
    Don’t live your life in a secondary storyline.

    Mark Morache
    FCPX/FCP7/Xpri/Avid
    Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
    https://fcpx.wordpress.com

  • Andreas Kiel

    February 21, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    Mark,

    As I said before – your approach to create a Motion template and to enter the clip name manually is the only way to go, except your clip name is the same as the file name.
    If you would know a bit about XML it would be easy to replace the “… node with the file name, but obviously you want to do something else, which only exists in the FCP project and in your mind.

    The exchange ways FCPX offers more or or less contain no metadata.
    10.0.3 gave us a little more for C(olor)C(orrection)apps – for other CC (caption) apps nothing as text. FCPXML is still ridiculous compared to earlier versions of FCP XMEML and I know several people at Apple being aware of that.

    That doesn’t mean FCPXML is garbage, it’s just limited. Try to read and understand the FCPX XML documentation same as you read the FCPX manual and prepare for the future.
    Go to w3schools.com to learn about global XML handling, reading, creation etc. Once done you will understand a bit better what options you have with FCPXML.

    Sorry to be not that helpful.

    Andreas

    Spherico
    https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

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