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I QUIT…. Working for nothing.
Louis Mason thomas replied 13 years, 3 months ago 22 Members · 137 Replies
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Andy Jackson
July 27, 2012 at 10:15 pmA sense of humour.
Just whats needed.
Trying to take our minds of the real problems and issues.
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Scott Sheriff
July 28, 2012 at 5:16 pm[Michael Hendrix] “Do you guys remember when you got into the business? Did you step on anyones toes as a noob?”
Hell no. It’s rude, and wasn’t tolerated or embraced as it seems to be now. Plus there was actually respect for those that had experience, not the contempt that these wannbe punks have for us “old timers”. When you came back with crap and were criticized, you didn’t get up in anyones face and call them names or tell them it’s a new paradigm. You accepted it, and attempted to learn form those that had been there and done it.
There was never any shame in being new, as long as you knew your place. We used to have this thing called “paying your dues”. It goes along with another thing we called “seat time”. People that didn’t pay their dues, didn’t have seat time, and were shunned by all and pushed out of the industry. This was all before the invention of the word noobs. We had a word for people that were inexperienced and clueless who thought they had the same skills as the rest of us that did pay their dues. But I can’t share it here.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comhttps://www.affordabledolly.com
“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
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Robert Fargo
July 28, 2012 at 10:07 pmMaybe there are other issues with you not getting the rates you’re used to?
“Go to my contact page to book you gig, or to discuss rates.”
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Scott Sheriff
July 29, 2012 at 12:11 am[Robert Fargo] “Maybe there are other issues with you not getting the rates you’re used to?”
I guess I don’t get why you posted a link to my web page, and what you mean?
Scott Sheriff
SST Digital Media
Multi-Camera Director, VFX and Post ProductionThe Affordable Camera Dolly is your just right solution!
“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
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Robert Fargo
July 29, 2012 at 12:25 amSorry Scott, I should have been more specific and less snarky. If I was looking for a quote for professional video I’d be slightly turned off by such obvious grammatical errors. It seems that professional web design has fallen off as rapidly as pro video…
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Mark Suszko
July 29, 2012 at 12:33 amNow you guys are just getting catty… that’s not how we do it here.
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Scott Sheriff
July 29, 2012 at 12:44 am[Robert Fargo] “Sorry Scott, I should have been more specific and less snarky. If I was looking for a quote for professional video I’d be slightly turned off by such obvious grammatical errors. It seems that professional web design has fallen off as rapidly as pro video…”
I don’t give a rats ass about snarky, I just couldn’t see it.
This is why they tell you not to proof read your own stuff. Not really grammatical, as it is a simple typo. Glad you caught that, now I can go fix it!Scott Sheriff
SST Digital Media
Multi-Camera Director, VFX and Post ProductionThe Affordable Camera Dolly is your just right solution!
“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
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Robert Fargo
July 29, 2012 at 1:01 amDidn’t mean to offend! It’s been a long day. I made the mistake of reading the whole thread at once and as a struggling web designer, I’ve seen my industry rise and fall to the whims of cost and “my brother makes web sites for free” in a much smaller ark than video production.
Do you feel that web design is best left to pro’s or do you handle it “internally” much like what has been lamented in this thread re: video production? And if you do handle it, is that at all contradictory to at least some of your arguments against diversification?
Again, I’m sorry if this sounds rude or trollish…
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Mark Suszko
July 29, 2012 at 1:08 amWhile we’re on the subject of what’s on your web page, I saw that you list a lot of details about your computer and software. Are you sure that this is useful or a positive thing? Where I’m coming from is, if i am a client that’s kind of ignorant, is the hardware and software plug-ins list supposed to impress me – because if I don’t know what all that stuff means, it’s just hash words.
OTOH if I’m a pro myself, or had experience dealing with pros, would the hardware info there really be of much value? Could I use it as a shopping list to buy my own stuff to compete with you? I suppose it is a positive for netting clients, in the cases where you have specific file formats and you’re looking for someone already able to deal with those.
But my overall thinking on this, just my own, understand, is that it may scare off more business than it brings in, to be too free with listing everything you have. If you have to list the wireless keyboard for the computer as a selling feature of your post service, well… 🙂 And conversely, smaller potential clients might get scared off by too big a list of techno-babble.
My experience of editing clients is that they come in two main flavors. The larger majority of them are:
“Just tell me what time it is, not how to build the clock”and
“I could cut this myself, let me move your hands for you”.I only get those kind once in a blue moon.
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