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  • Craig Seeman

    August 5, 2012 at 12:02 am
  • Misha Aranyshev

    August 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    I wonder what’s the economics of a “DSLR kid”. He comes, destroys the market, then what?

  • Ron Lindeboom

    August 5, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    One thing that I have “well observed” (to quote you, Andy, is that you NEVER address any of the points that people make. All you want to do is complain.

    You have had your say and have had your bitchfest more than a number of times now.

    Our policy is one that when arguments just become noise, we warn the people doing it and ask them to stop or we will simply terminate their accounts.

    You have had your say and you will not do people here the respect of responding to their advice and well meaning offers of ideas that have worked for them. You just ignore it all and only like to bitch about what you see as the lousy changes in our industry.

    As I said somewhere else in this thread: life is always in a state of flux and it is those who can adapt that survive. You wish to stay right in the circumstances as they have been for you in the past and do not wish to explore other options that people have proffered to you. Your only argument is that you are going to low-ball. Good luck.

    I know people here who have RAISED their prices to purposely drive off the ones who buy from low-ballers and who have fewer clients than they once had — some even end up with more — but they make more money with the ones they now have. There have always been those who like to buy cheap and there will always be those who know that cheap is usually an invitation to a nightmare. They are willing to pay for great work. AND they work through relationships built on trust.

    Cultivating that type of business is what many here have focused on. It works. Not for everyone, as nothing ever does. But it is far better to work with the clients who work through relationships than it is to hang a shingle and wait for “Now serving number 1732” to pop in.

    Best regards,

    Ronald Lindeboom
    CEO Emeritus, Creative COW LLC
    Publisher Emeritus, Creative COW Magazine
    A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
    http://www.creativecow.net

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  • Andy Jackson

    November 4, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Hi all.

    Just a quick update on my situation.

    I tried but now……

    Ive quit, quit, quit…!..!!!!!!!

    Got out of the industry completely.

    From my recent experiences and chats with fellow producers an ex producers etc. They all agree that the industry is on a shoestring waiting to snap and being replaced by cheap useless velcro.

    No one is seriously interested in quality , just the bottom line cost.
    Clients trying to lower your quotes to the bone then moving on and doing the same again to another struggling video professional.

    Not worth it anymore and i need to start saving for my retirement. I cant seem to be able to do it in this industry.
    No guaranteed paycheck.

    🙁

  • Tim Wilson

    November 4, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Congratulations on doing something. An awful lot of people make an awful lot of noise without moving forward, and it sounds like you’ve taken good steps toward a more secure future.

    I gotta know, though. What was your move? How FAR out of the industry? Because I saw a sign at Petco that they needed an assistant manager and nearly jumped at it….

    Tim Wilson
    Vice President, Editor-in-Chief
    Creative COW

  • Andy Jackson

    November 4, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Hi Tim.

    Just had to check who petco were.
    Think its called pets at home here in the UK.

    Seems like it might be a good move.
    Nice fluffy animals to look after instead of the vicious sharks eating away at you.

    I moved to a blue chip I.T. company who deal with corporate and goverment installations for various sectors.

    With my knowledge of building pc systems, networks and severs, for my editing needs , it got me a foot in the door.
    All straight forward stuff and it brings in a regular paycheck which I have not seen for a while.

    Happy days!!

  • Louis Mason thomas

    January 9, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    And Just how talented are your salesmanship skills within reasonable range ?

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