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I guess it’s So Long and Thanks for all the Fish!
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Could’t agree more
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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[Dominic Deacon] “And PC hardware is seriously cheap. I got an i7 3.4ghz, 16gb RAM and nVidia graphics that runs all these programs lightning fast for significantly cheaper than the smallest iMac. The computers been as much of a revelation as the programs. Never crashes and no spinning beach balls. I hate the beach ball. It’s very hard to justify the $2k plus (AUD) that Apple charges for the larger models.”
That is misleading. I build systems for Edius and I use FCP in all flavors.
If you tried to build a machine similar to a MacPro in terms of built-quality, metal-housing, cooling layout, power parts etc you would reach Apple prices. Once you get to the iMac you are not having a chance to build such a machine WITH a comparable screen for that price.
It´s true you can build a powerful machine and buy Win7 and have it running for half the price of an Apple, but it won´t be the same value still. And don´t get me started on the differences of the OS (although Lion is a duck right now).
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yeah, it’s mad, I always appear to have *one* more frothing rant in me. ohh welll..
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Is there really an NLE on windows which can use 12 cores of CPU?? Can adobe CS5.5 do it? Avid? Edius? I know FCPX can because of Grand Central Dispatch tech by Apple..as it can use not only all of the cores in the CPU but also all of thecores in the GPU. Do they have something similar in windows? Cause if there isnt, whats the point of a montrous build for a windows NLE? 4 cores and lots of ram may be enough.
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[Glen Hurd] “Aindreas has mastered the art of message and style. He can say F-U, and still leave everyone smiling.
“It’s still just an opinion. One man’s horsesh*t tool is another’s trick of the trade.
Take DSLRs for example. As far as I’m concerned, they are an ill informed, pompous bastardization of a video camera. Really. Nothing in the past ten years has caused me as an editor so much consistent trouble. Yet they seem to be all the rage. It has redefined an industry, but has no timecode, shotty on board audio and video that is compressed right up to noise. Similar parallels could be made about FCPX. I’d like a DSLR if it had timecode, fir real audio, manageable ergonomics, and a real video codec. Some might like FCPX more if it had missing features that encompass today’s NLEs. As far as I’m concerned DSLRs have changed to business forever. No going back. It remains to be seen what will happen with the “Mark II” of FCPX. After all it is just a tool:
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Yes to all your negatives Jeremy, but the fact remains that in the right hands a 5D can produce pictures you simply can’t get with any other camera. Is there anything you can output with FCPX you can’t do with any other NLE?
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Jeremy, FCPX as video-DSLR is a really interesting analogy! A one-size-fits-all approach that can best be used in a professional setting by talented operators with loads of accessories to mitigate the weaknesses inherent in using the “wrong” tool in the first place?
I’d argue that Canon did a far better job of supporting industry standards out of the box, though. FCPX won’t be there until the APIs and third-party tools are out, and that’s when FCPX may merit additional consideration. Also, although the Canon “interface” is unusual for a cinematographer, Canon didn’t try to change any still photo concepts or language.
And I loved the video. “Decades of experience? Access to millions of dollars of equipment? Actual ideas? None of these things were in the box!”
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[Herb Sevush] “Yes to all your negatives Jeremy, but the fact remains that in the right hands a 5D can produce pictures you simply can’t get with any other camera”
Ha! What?
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[Walter Soyka] “I’d argue that Canon did a far better job of supporting industry standards out of the box, though. “
I wouldn’t. It could only do 30.0 for a very long time. It was the 5d MkII and a few firmware updates that made the world take notice, not the MkI. Canon is laughing all the way to the bank. Why would they need to change anything?
[Walter Soyka] “Canon didn’t try to change any still photo concepts or language.”
Come on now. They certainly didn’t include common variables. Hey, how about a waveform? No? Oh, a histogram that only works when I take a still? What about real time audio meters? No?
Exposure reading? Format feedback? A viewfinder? Real time video out while shooting to connect to external hardware? No?
Sorry, but I can’t agree that out of the box, it isn’t hobbled. Im also sorrry for my double negatives and truncated iPhone ramblings. But I think people tend to forget just how hobbled it is, because they can get a result out of it.
[Walter Soyka] “And I loved the video. “Decades of experience? Access to millions of dollars of equipment? Actual ideas? None of these things were in the box!””
🙂 Glad you like it. I love this video and aptly sums up a portion of what is going on in the world. “I want my money back, Canon.”
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For a cooking show I direct we shoot finished plating shots, very quickly, at the end of each sequence, with all 4 of our Panasonic hdx900 cameras. 2 years ago, when we jumped to do the beauties we replaced one camera with a 5D. The images were amazing, so powerful that even though we had the other angles to play with, I used almost nothing else in the final edit. Same camera operators, same lighting, and the 5D blew everything else away. The problem for the producers was that it was sooooo different, not just depth of field, but in the way it handled light, that it made the rest of the show look like shit. We decided it had to be all one way or the other for the following year. Because it is a multi-cam shoot and because of all the problems you mentioned, plus some others not mentioned, we didn’t repeat the experiment. We used a Pany 100F this year on the beauties and the results are nowhere close.
It’s not for every use and it needs to be housed in a professional video camera body, but I stand by what I said – I can get shots with the 5D that I can’t get, but would like to, with any other camera. (I’ll admit I haven’t tried a Red or Alexa – I still don’t think they would match up – they would be more equivalent to shooting with a Canon 7D) This is not as true with any of the smaller Canon models (7D, 60, 2i). In this, as in many things, size (sensor size) does matter.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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