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  • Patrick Sheffield

    June 26, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    “Such an API would allow anyone to write an app or plug-in to export sequence data from FCP X in any format, and would almost certainly result in FCP X having a far more robust set of export options than FCP 7 ever had.”

    At what cost? If Automatic Duck is taken as an example, gonna get pretty expensive at $500 a pop… These were supported in the past by Apple themselves. Sure, Apple should make the API available, but perhaps they could use their own API to deliver some of the stuff they left out.

    Patrick Sheffield
    Sheffield Softworks

  • Patrick Sheffield

    June 26, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    So, do I take it that Apple, thru Pogue is telling the truth when they say they have no intention of ever supporting prior versions of Final Cut Pro projects?

    ’cause I know they are, at best, stretching the truth about some of what Pogue is saying for them.

    Patrick Sheffield
    Sheffield Softworks

  • Chris Kenny

    June 26, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    [Patrick Sheffield] “At what cost? If Automatic Duck is taken as an example, gonna get pretty expensive at $500 a pop… These were supported in the past by Apple themselves. Sure, Apple should make the API available, but perhaps they could use their own API to deliver some of the stuff they left out.”

    To be fair, $500 doesn’t just get you a plug-in to export OMF. Pro Export FCP is primarily a tool for moving FCP sequences (not FCP X sequences, so far) into Avid. It also provides more advanced OMF exporting than is built into FCP 7.

    If someone went and wrote a plug-in that just implemented the same level of OMF export support as FCP 7, I doubt it would be $500. It would be a much simpler product, and the developer could anticipate selling more copies, because basic OMF exporting is presumably demanded by many more users than advanced OMF exporting or FCP to Avid translation.


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  • Scott Sheriff

    June 26, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “cherry pick convenient parts of reportage and make them sound like official word from on high at Apple simply because it sounds impressive and bolsters your argument.”

    99% of the apple defenders resort to using this tactic, or the fact they just “know” what apple is going to do. Because that is all they have for ammo. They have no actual facts. They also cherry pick apples past actions to try and make their case. The other 1% just resort to name calling.
    This has been going on since the NAB Supermeet demo.
    This forum was filled with factless rhetoric based on a tightly controlled demo, with no Q&A session, or actual hands on testing. They went on and on with these buzz-word laced posts, making X seem like it was the second coming of Jesus. Any skeptics were promptly shouted down. Mostly with personal attacks, because just as now, they have no facts to base their opinion on.

    Several things seem really clear when I read posts by the staunch apple defenders.
    1. They committed to liking this release, and declaring it a winner very early on based on nothing. They spent countless hours telling us about paradigm shifts, and how apple is so smart, so cutting edge, and so committed to the professional market. Now they will have to defend apple at all costs to protect their reputation and back up their predictions.

    2. Apple defenders are clearly more invested in the brand then they are their craft, or their peers and colleagues. This is actually very sad, and pathetic.

    3. Apples cloak and dagger way it does business gives it the feel of an exclusive club for some of the apple defenders. Like the Skull and Bones, or Masons. Some just want the ego boost of looking like one of the famed insiders, and being privy to something the rest of us are not.

    4. And last, but not least there are some that don’t use the product in the traditional way, and have a financial stake in apples success. They earn a living from training, system set-up and the like. The EOL of FCS3 and the intro of X are an entirely new and lucrative revenue stream for them. Being critical of apple would be bad for them, their business, and their reputation.

    In all this fray, I have to give major props and kudos to David Roth Weiss. While not an over the top early supporter of X, he was still very optimistic in many of his posts prior to the release. After the release was out, and he examined the facts as they stood, David sucked it up and was willing to admit it was not what he was hoping for. That not only takes a lot of balls, but shows that he has a lot of credibility.
    Love X or not, I don’t care. But those that unduly criticize David, or the other skeptics including myself need to take a good look in the mirror, and examine their own motives and credibility.

    Scott Sheriff
    Director
    https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

    I have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
    You should be suitably impressed…

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