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  • I am crazzy?? Cineform codec in DV projects via Aspect HD

    Posted by Manololp on April 21, 2005 at 10:11 pm

    Hallo. Sorry for me English.
    I am very interested in Cineform. My question: is possible edit DV material (from a Panasonic DVX100a Pal progressive) in Premiere Pro using the Cineform codec (in opposition to DV codec)?.
    I want to capture shoots of the DVX in Premiere (via 1394 port) and after postproccesed the resulting avi in 4:2:2 10 bit color resolution in After Effects (all using the Cineform codec), is this possible?
    Is possible too to use the cineform codec in a system with a Blackmagic Decklink SP card (for output analog Pal resolution)?
    Thank in advance.
    Best Regards
    Manuel Lopez (Spain)

    Tim Kolb replied 19 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Steven L. gotz

    April 21, 2005 at 11:16 pm

    I imagine you might want to ask the people on the Cineform web site.

    I am under the impression that the Cineform codec is for HD or HDV, not DV projects. But they might know how to accomplish what you are asking for.

    But why would you want to use that codec?

  • Paul Carlin

    April 21, 2005 at 11:17 pm

    Cineform’s AspectHD codec is for HDV cameras only. It is not appropriate for use with DV footage.

    If you have the Blackmagic Decklink SP card in your system you can do the following:

    1) Create a DV Project, capture firewire, edit and export to AVI. Encode the AVI using the 10bit Blackmagic codec.

    2) Create a 10bit PAL Blackmagic project, import the AVI and output.

  • Manololp

    April 21, 2005 at 11:52 pm

    Hello. Because cineform codec is 4:2:2 10 bit without compressing artifact, and DV is 4:2:0 (Pal) and 5:1 compression. Is bad codec for motion graphics.

  • Manololp

    April 22, 2005 at 12:02 am

    Hello. It was only an idea. I like the Decklink SP, except is only uncompressed. I will like mix DV, compressed and uncompressed in same timeline in Premiere Pro with the Decklink.

  • Manololp

    April 22, 2005 at 12:11 am

    This is on the Cineform web page about ProspectHD:
    Supports HD, HDV, and SD resolutions and frame rates:
    – 1920x1080i/p: p24 / p25 / p30 / i50 / i60
    – 720p: p24 / p25 / p30 / p50 / p60
    – 480i/p (NTSC): 60i/60p
    – 576i/p (PAL): 50i/50p

    ProspectHD and AspectHD is not equivalent?
    I dont like PropectHD because lack analog component out, SDI monitoring is very expensive and I am looking for a cheap solutions.

  • Paul Carlin

    April 22, 2005 at 12:49 am

    ProspectHD requires the AJA Xena-HS card. It is not a stand-alone product.

    None of these products will work with your Decklink SP card.

    However, Cineform showed at NAB thier support for the Decklink HD cards.

  • Tim Kolb

    April 22, 2005 at 9:28 pm

    Prospect is 10 bit, up to 1920×1080…Aspect is 8 bit with a maximum frame size of 1440×1080. Prospect is being upgraded to an SD/HD system and that is why you see the frame sizes listed.

    Aspect OR Prospect can use an Nvidia FX540 card to take an external overlay to an analog component HD monitor as far as I know.

    Kolb Syverson Communications
    Creative Cow Host
    2004, 2005 NAB Post Production Conference Premiere Pro Technical Chair
    Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro”
    “Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series”

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