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Hyperdeck shuttle my views
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“I don’t understand how you think closed captioning would be needed for an on camera recorder?”
But if they were in business to make a profit, why would they deliberately limit their horizon to only the “on-camera recorder” market? That’s the part we don’t understand. The introduction of the “studio” rack-mount version at least shows that they are thinking beyond “on-camera” use. But still not quite there when you can buy a whole case of tapes for the price of one hard drive that won’t even hold 60 minutes.
And even if codec licenses added $100 to the price of each unit, it would still be a very attractive replacement for tape machines. And codec licenses are likely a tiny fraction of that amount.
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Richard: I talked with Joshua Helling at NAB at length about several things, not the least of which was implementing multiple data rates of ProRes on the HDStudio and he told me specifically that the licensing fee for each of the bitrates was “significant”. So, I’m ASSUMING more than just a couple of dollars per unit.
Big Dog – Technical Director – Switcher
Road Dog Media – Vancouver, BC Canada
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[Richard Crowley] “But still not quite there when you can buy a whole case of tapes for the price of one hard drive that won’t even hold 60 minutes.”
120GB SSD drives at my computer sales outlet (nearly wholesale) are about $100. MUCH more for 240GB and larger. That allows 1 hour of ProRes or DNxHD recording on my HDStudios.
A case (of ten I assume) of any tape that records anything higher than 25mbps (ie. something better than HDV so DVCProHD or HDCAM/HDCAM SR) would be SIGNIFICANTLY higher than $100…
Big Dog – Technical Director – Switcher
Road Dog Media – Vancouver, BC Canada
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“even using the DNxHD codec I am not even getting an hour of recording on a 120 Gb drive.” – Neil Adamson
“120GB SSD drives at my computer sales outlet (nearly wholesale) are about $100. That allows 1 hour of ProRes or DNxHD recording on my HDStudios.” – Shaun Roemich
These statements appear to disagree. My impression was that there were only a few SSD which would perform properly in the BMD recorder products. And last time I checked, none of the recommended models are available at my (relatively well-stocked) local vendor. (https://www.euninc.com)
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I believe I get 119 minutes of DNxHD (I’m waiting to do my first long form ProRes recording) out of my 240GB OCZ Vertex 3 drives that I paid $300 each for. The 120GB are almost always on sale (see below) for JUST over $100CDN.
I HAVE heard some reports of dropped frames if drives are over 90% full but that hasn’t been my experience… YET. I switch over with minutes to go.
Of course, your mileage can and will vary…
Big Dog – Technical Director – Switcher
Road Dog Media – Vancouver, BC Canada
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10 pack of 1 hour DVCProHD tapes:
Big Dog – Technical Director – Switcher
Road Dog Media – Vancouver, BC Canada
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DVC ProHD has a significantly higher compression rate than DNx 220. Plus it is anamoprihic. DNx is full raster.
Less money – less quality.
Jef
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Exactly my point. Thank you.
Big Dog – Technical Director – Switcher
Road Dog Media – Vancouver, BC Canada
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Hi Folks,
Am I being confused?
This off of the HyperDeck 2 promo page:
“Compressed or Uncompressed
Now you have the freedom to work in both compressed and uncompressed video depending on the needs of your project! Uncompressed video will always produce the highest quality mathematically perfect results and is ideal when recording video for color correction, chroma keying and high end VFX work.
When you need longer recording duration or you’re working with lots of video material, HyperDeck Shuttle 2 can be instantly changed over to use DNxHD MXF compressed video files.
The popular Avid DNxHD is a SMPTE standard codec that’s used by thousands of broadcast and post production facilities worldwide as it maintains the highest 10-bit video quality with the advantage of smaller file sizes.”
More to the point, and correct me if I’m wrong, isn’t ProRes a long in the tooth codec somewhat a legacy of the MP2 flavor?
Just askin’.
Thanks,
Rob
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Additional wake up and smell the silicon wafers: https://www.digitalrebellion.com/webapps/video_calc.html
This indicates that one hour of uncompressed 1080P will need 500.15 GB’s…ummm…OK then, point absorbed.
The frame rate is 23.98, which would be the preferred output from the D800 or D4 bypassing the card capture.
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