HVX200 Record to Harddrive W/O P2 Card?

[Noah Kadner]

Hmm- have thought about this specifically. I would tend to think you’ll be able to record to hard drive without a P2 card loaded. It wouldn’t really be like Panny to *force* you to buy P2.

[Rennie Klymyk]

It may be a good idea anyway. You could continually record over the same card while streaming out the firewire port, constantly rewriting over the card every 8, 16, 32 minutes (depending on your format setting). Even an old smaller card could be used for this. That way if your firewire connection was knocked out which could easily happen, you wouldn’t miss anything while you re-connected the cable. Maybe Panasonic could devise a way for a sure lock firewire cable to connect like a BNC connector or the Videonics firewire cables to avoid this possibillity. Most I/O connectors on cameras butt into the camera at 90′ so the cable sticks straight out. Perhaps the jack could be positioned so the cable runs along the body a bit and it could be clamped a few inches past the connection point.

[Matt Stoltz]

noah- “wouldnt be like panny to make you but p2 cards”

they already are making u buy them because -you cant record HD footage to tape with this camera –only sd footage

I love this camera but I think panasonic has lost it here not being able to back up yoru HD footage on tape —

the only other thing I know is the Firestore fs -4 and hopefully they will upgade this withe the new H.264 codec from quicktime –so u can capture HD with the FS 4

Is electronic capture really fool-proof? Id rather have it on tape

matt

[Graeme Nattress]

And what has a highly compressed delivery codec like h.264 got to do with this??

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

[Guy Bruner]

Ok, come on guys let’s keep this thread congruent with the question. I spoke with Jan at NAB about the Firewire output, but I forgot to ask if a P2 card needed to be in the cam to enable device controls and streaming out to through the Firewire port. If you don’t know the answer, then don’t post.

BTW, I changed my user name so it is different than my original post.

[Barry Green]

To answer the original question: no, no P2 card is needed. The firewire port will stream HD data right out of the box, so if you plug it into a laptop or desktop running FCP-HD, Avid Express HD, Canopus Edius, or (forthcoming) DV Rack-HD, you will be able to capture full HD footage right from the outset, no P2 card needed. Or, for those who want tape, you could firewire it over to a DVCPRO-HD tape deck.

Having a P2 card will make your system a lot more portable, of course, but it’s not an absolute requirement. You could capture the HD stream from the firewire port instead, either to a computer hooked up to the firewire port, or to a DVCPRO-HD-aware hard disk capture unit like the forthcoming FireStore, or to tape on an AJ-HD1200A DVCPRO-HD tape deck.

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[Kevin Dooley]

Hey Barry,

Do you know for sure that DV Rack is working to support DVCPRO HD? Has there been a press release, or is this Barry Green’s inside info?

Kevin Dooley
Director of Video Services
Imago Dei Media Group, Inc.

[Barry Green]

That was part of a conversation we held on the Serious Magic DV Rack forum. Mark Mapes said that they were most interested in supporting DVCPRO-HD, and that they were already talking to Panasonic to make it happen.

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[Barry Green]

Doh! I thought I blew it. It was Mark RANDALL of Serious Magic who said that. Sure wish we could edit posts here!

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[Guy Bruner]

Thanks for the clarification, Barry. Jan just posted a clarification on the type of hard drive. It has to be intelligent like a Firestore. So, the speculation that any ole drive will work is not true. Also, the iPod trick was a file transfer not a capture operation.

So, we have a DVCPROHD camcorder that will record to P2 card, to external intelligent hard drive, or to a laptop/desktop in full 1080/60i (100 Mbps) or any mode below that.