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  • HVX200 field audio question

    Posted by John Hunter on October 25, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    I’ve been shooting a lot of live music shows lately for a project. I’ve tried using just the camera’s built-in shotgun mic as well as a Sennheiser shotgun (used in conjunction). I keep the audio levels way down, and have the mic settings in the menu set to -60db?

    My problem is…….there is a continuous popping of distortion (especially when I’m close to the stage/speakers). Is this just the way it is, even if the levels are way below clipping levels? Are there any other menu settings within the camera that I can try?

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    David Coleman replied 15 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Fernando Mol

    October 25, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    I get the audio signal directly from the mixer when I can, but if you are on the move and cables are not an option, you can place a wireless mic in front of the speakers.

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  • John Hunter

    October 25, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    yeah, it’s definitely a run & gun type of project. Trying to capture guitarists from different bands playing a special guitar on stage. Never exactly sure which song during the set they’re going to play it, so I have to be waiting out front with the camera ready to shoot. It’s usually in amphitheater/concert hall settings. I’m also dealing with tight security because I’m usually only cleared to shoot during the song(s) they play the guitar in.

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  • Fernando Mol

    October 25, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    If the sound is really important then you should get a sound guy. Maybe someone pointing a shotgun to the speakers and adjusting the levels in a pre before you get the signal to your cam.

    Some handy-cams have an auto adjustable level for the sound. If you have one of those, get a friend to get the piece in a stable position while you record the main footage.

    I know you were asking for a single button solution, but good sound almost always require a little extra investment both in hardware and personnel. Auto adjustable sound level doesn’t come but in cheap cameras and there’s a reason for that, it doesn’t always sound good. Convince of that to the people that hired you.

    I hope this helps

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  • Michael Sacci

    October 25, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    I would ask the bands sound guy to record the concert to a CD. Make sure you give the guy a little cash for his trouble.

  • Steve Eisen

    October 26, 2010 at 1:58 am

    You can always attach an attenuator.

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    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • John Hunter

    October 26, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    yeah, the sound is not a make or break part of this (although I’m sure it sounds like it probably should be!), but it’s not really in the budget to hire someone. I was just wondering what preliminary steps i could take in the camera’s menu settings to minimize distortion. I may also need to have the mic checked to see if its been damaged at some point.

    thanks for your suggestions!

    J O H N H U N T E R
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  • John Hunter

    October 26, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Yeah, that’s definitely the best option. I’ve contacted a few of the “tapers” as well for a good live recording.

    J O H N H U N T E R
    Editor/DP
    john.hunter@Luckie.com

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  • John Hunter

    October 26, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Interesting. I saw the AT8202 (Audio Technica) that provides -10dB, -20dB or -30dB attenuation. Is this at all what the -50dB and -60dB settings in the HVX menu are doing? I usually have mine set to -60dB. Would the attenuator simply be adding more?

    J O H N H U N T E R
    Editor/DP
    john.hunter@Luckie.com

    L U C K I E & C O M P A N Y
    600 Luckie Drive
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    (o) 205.877.9871

  • Michael Sacci

    October 27, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    The camera has a limiter on the mic/line in, this will keep the audio from peaking into the camera, but it the mic.

    One thing I always do when I’m only using a single external mic is to use channel 2. Set the camera so that mic channel 2 goes to record channel 1 and 2. Then I set 1 to where I think is best, then turn channel 2 down at least 6dB. This gives you a safety buffer. If you have extremes turn it down 12dB.

  • David Coleman

    November 2, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    If the sound is loud enough, it will overdrive the mic capsule. Then it doesn’t matter how low you turn it down. If you can’t connect a wireless mic to the soundboard the CD is the way to go. Come to think of it, I think I’d prefer it anyway so you get all the music whether you’re rolling camera or not.

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