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  • HVX200 Demo DVD major mistake?

    Posted by Randall3 on October 28, 2005 at 11:41 pm

    In about the middle of the demo DVD there is a split screen comparison of HDV vs DVX100a footage. I was asked to watch carefully and I did – I believe the titles are referring to the wrong footage respectively. (The side labeled ‘DVX100’ was in fact the HDV footage) Anyone else see it that way?

    Mike Schrengohst replied 20 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Graeme Nattress

    October 28, 2005 at 11:49 pm

    I’ve just got the DVD – give me a chance to have a watch and I’ll see….

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Randall3

    October 29, 2005 at 12:16 am

    Watch for interlace problems on the so-labeled DVX100a side of the split screen. It’s a mess. The HDV labeled side looks great by comparison. A major screw-up. The big tip-off is in the scene before – the HVX200* footage was the same color as the ‘HDV’ labeled side in the split screen. What are they selling? 😉 (Jan, have you paid these guys yet?)

    *Varicam, whatever flavor of DVCPRO100

  • Mike Schrengohst

    October 29, 2005 at 1:09 am

    Yes I noticed that. A great job selling Sony if the labels are correct. I use a DVX-100 and my footage never looked that bad. Poor idea to show that kind of a comparision when they are not even showing HVX200 footage. When I see a “real demo” of “real footage” shot with the HVX200 then I might get interested.

  • Blub06

    October 29, 2005 at 5:28 am

    Of course that

  • Graeme Nattress

    October 29, 2005 at 1:44 pm

    Yes, the split-screen comparison is ghastly. Who-ever produced that isn’t giving either camera a fair shoot. It’s hard to figure out if the split screen is mis-labled, or just botched, as it doesn’t show what the voiceover is talking about. There are plenty of ways to demonstrate the difference of HDV and DVCproHD, but you can’t stand there and complain about MPEG2 on a DVD encoded with, guess what, MPEG2!!!!

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Randall3

    October 29, 2005 at 1:56 pm

    Both cameras exhibit interlace problems in the split-screen – with the labeled DVX100a being, by far, the worst. The previous clip of the runner in DVCPROHD did not have any interlace problems.

  • Randall3

    October 29, 2005 at 3:32 pm

    There are plenty of ways to demonstrate the difference of HDV and DVCproHD, but you can’t stand there and complain about MPEG2 on a DVD encoded with, guess what, MPEG2!!!!

    The same problems show themselves on the Windows Media HD encoding (5m bit rate) on the disk – it’s not a specific MPEG2 problem. The right side of the split-screen is definately HDV but labeled DVX100a. What’s the left side? The DVX100a shooting interlaced? Why would they do that?

  • Mike Schrengohst

    October 30, 2005 at 10:00 pm

    I looked at the WMV HD version of the demo. The DVX-100 footage looks horrible. If it is DVX-100 footage?? Panasonic, if you are listening. What would help is some downloadable AG-HVX200 footage on WMV HD. I would like to compare that to the VariCam footage demo.

  • Chris Borjis

    October 31, 2005 at 5:33 pm

    Yeah I don’t get why they would show samples of anything but HVX
    for comparison when its a DVD about HVX. Doesn’t really help promote it.

    Words are just words, But a pictures worth a thousand.

    anyone else notice printed on the disc in the middle reads “Version 2.1”

    so they’ve already revised it and the mistake got through again?

  • Mike Schrengohst

    October 31, 2005 at 5:58 pm

    I remember when Sony produced a demo for its CineAlta line. Real footage shot with the camera and technology they were promoting. Interviews with Lucas and Cameron.
    Pana will have to kick it up a notch? I know we are talking 100K camera vs. a 10K camera but it’s kind of hard to get a real comparsion when Pana is using a 60K camera to shoot a demo.

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