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  • Uli Plank

    November 23, 2006 at 5:00 pm

    It’s not a very good idea to shoot with one camera for cinema (24p) and the other one for TV (60p). The Frame Rate Converter can’t really help in this case, since it’s meant for removal of frames that were tagged obsolete from the start, like shooting 24p on the Varicam too. What will be your final product?

    Regards,

    Uli

    Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.

  • Sergio Deustua

    November 23, 2006 at 5:10 pm

    The final resoult will be 720p60. We are shooting with the HVX in 24 only because we want to shoot more time in less card space.

  • Arnie Schlissel

    November 23, 2006 at 5:27 pm

    Buy an extra card and shoot 60P. The time & headache you save yourself will more than pay for the card.

    Arnie
    Now in post: Peristroika, a film by Slava Tsukerman
    https://www.arniepix.com/blog

  • Shane Ross

    November 23, 2006 at 10:46 pm

    I agree with the others. If you are shooting 720p60 with the varicam, dot he same with the HVX. 23.98 (24PN) upped to 59.94 doesn’t work well.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Chris Bell

    November 24, 2006 at 4:09 am

    I’ll add my 2 cents… shoot everything at 60p. The memory you save on the P2 cards will amount to nothing compared with the editing problems you’re going to have in post.

    P2 storage is very manageable with a P2 store, powerbook, or Firestore. I would put your energy into proper data management on your shoot.

    Chris Bell

  • Sergio Deustua

    November 24, 2006 at 9:37 am

    Big error of my team. Future shooting can be solve, but now im in trouble.

  • Izoneguy

    November 24, 2006 at 5:19 pm

    What kind of a project are you doing???
    Try testing with the FRC the 720 60p footage
    to 24p.
    And try a test with some of the HVX footage…
    take the 24pN footage and export to 60p….
    If you have already shot the footage you
    have nothing to lose…
    determine what would be best for the project
    and proceed forward….
    When I print 720 24p timelines to tape, FCP
    adds the pulldown back in and you end up
    with a tape that is 720 60p.

  • Uli Plank

    November 24, 2006 at 10:59 pm

    The FRC won’t help, since it will not find any flagged frames.

    If you have more stuff from the Varicam, try Twixtor from http://www.revisonfx.com to generate the extra frames for 24 > 60. Depending on your footage, it can synthetize pretty convincing intermediate frames, but it’s slow.

    Regards,

    Uli

    Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.

  • Mactrix

    November 25, 2006 at 9:37 am

    I would try Compressor 2 to convert 23.98 to 59.94.
    It’s also slow like Twixtor but free of charge.

    Also, just try to put your 23.98 clips into the 59.94
    sequence. FCP will add duplicated frames to it.
    Maybe it looks fine for you. That’s what the Varicam
    does when you record 23.98 over 60p. During
    playback you won’t notice the duplicated frames.
    I couldn’t try it yet by myself with 24p but in the PAL
    world with 25p over 50p or 25p over 60p it’s fine …

  • Sergio Deustua

    November 27, 2006 at 9:48 am

    thanks everybody. you are right. theres nothing to do but test all of your iferent choices. thank you.

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