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HVX200 and Varicam
Posted by Sergio Deustua on November 23, 2006 at 4:42 pmMaybe this is a very discussed subject. Please, forgive may ignorance. I
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Uli Plank
November 23, 2006 at 5:00 pmIt’s not a very good idea to shoot with one camera for cinema (24p) and the other one for TV (60p). The Frame Rate Converter can’t really help in this case, since it’s meant for removal of frames that were tagged obsolete from the start, like shooting 24p on the Varicam too. What will be your final product?
Regards,
Uli
Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.
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Sergio Deustua
November 23, 2006 at 5:10 pmThe final resoult will be 720p60. We are shooting with the HVX in 24 only because we want to shoot more time in less card space.
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Arnie Schlissel
November 23, 2006 at 5:27 pmBuy an extra card and shoot 60P. The time & headache you save yourself will more than pay for the card.
Arnie
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Shane Ross
November 23, 2006 at 10:46 pmI agree with the others. If you are shooting 720p60 with the varicam, dot he same with the HVX. 23.98 (24PN) upped to 59.94 doesn’t work well.
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Chris Bell
November 24, 2006 at 4:09 amI’ll add my 2 cents… shoot everything at 60p. The memory you save on the P2 cards will amount to nothing compared with the editing problems you’re going to have in post.
P2 storage is very manageable with a P2 store, powerbook, or Firestore. I would put your energy into proper data management on your shoot.
Chris Bell
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Sergio Deustua
November 24, 2006 at 9:37 amBig error of my team. Future shooting can be solve, but now im in trouble.
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Izoneguy
November 24, 2006 at 5:19 pmWhat kind of a project are you doing???
Try testing with the FRC the 720 60p footage
to 24p.
And try a test with some of the HVX footage…
take the 24pN footage and export to 60p….
If you have already shot the footage you
have nothing to lose…
determine what would be best for the project
and proceed forward….
When I print 720 24p timelines to tape, FCP
adds the pulldown back in and you end up
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Uli Plank
November 24, 2006 at 10:59 pmThe FRC won’t help, since it will not find any flagged frames.
If you have more stuff from the Varicam, try Twixtor from http://www.revisonfx.com to generate the extra frames for 24 > 60. Depending on your footage, it can synthetize pretty convincing intermediate frames, but it’s slow.
Regards,
Uli
Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.
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Mactrix
November 25, 2006 at 9:37 amI would try Compressor 2 to convert 23.98 to 59.94.
It’s also slow like Twixtor but free of charge.Also, just try to put your 23.98 clips into the 59.94
sequence. FCP will add duplicated frames to it.
Maybe it looks fine for you. That’s what the Varicam
does when you record 23.98 over 60p. During
playback you won’t notice the duplicated frames.
I couldn’t try it yet by myself with 24p but in the PAL
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Sergio Deustua
November 27, 2006 at 9:48 amthanks everybody. you are right. theres nothing to do but test all of your iferent choices. thank you.
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