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  • HVX 200 shooting at 60… I don’t understand it!

    Posted by David Jakubovic on March 4, 2007 at 4:47 pm

    Hello!

    I’m completely new to the HVX P2 thing and am cutting something shot on it. They shot most of it at 60 fps but some of it at various degrees of slow motion (which is a strange statemtent but apparently the camera shoots everything at 60 and flags cetain shots that are not 60) – anyway, I don’t understand it very well and didn’t manage to find a site that explained it in a way that made sense to me. The shots that were shot slow motion came in all screwed up when I imported from the p2, they run but with a weird strobe… Anyone know how this works?

    Thanks!
    David

    Barry Green replied 19 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Izoneguy

    March 4, 2007 at 5:11 pm

    You have something like 14 different settings you can shoot at…
    In FCP you have to determine what you need to deliver and go from there.
    In FCP you have like 6 different editing set-ups that P2 files
    can go into.
    If you know where you need to go and what you have then
    I could guide you in a little better…

  • Emre Tufekci s.o.a.

    March 5, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    If you received 720p material shot at 60fps, avid will interpret that as 30i with each frame occupying a field. That would cause the footage to run at normal speed (not slo mo) and look strobey. If you actually apply and speed effect and slow it down %50 you will get the footage properly interpreted, looking slowmo at 30i. This is the formula I use when filming 720p 60fps with hvx200 in avid.

    With Final cut pro you need to download and use the frame rate converter from the Panasonic website to achieve this.
    https://www.panasonic.com/business/provideo/support/fcphd.asp

    If this is not your problem can you be more specific,your system,footage resolution, frame rate…

    Cheers

    Emre
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  • Barry Green

    March 6, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    [davidjaku] “but some of it at various degrees of slow motion (which is a strange statemtent but apparently the camera shoots everything at 60 and flags cetain shots that are not 60) – anyway, I don’t understand it very well and didn’t manage to find a site that explained it in a way that made sense to me”

    The HVX doesn’t always shoot at 60; it shoots at whatever frame rate you tell it to. However, in certain modes it always RECORDS at 60fps. So what happens is that you can end up with duplicate frames; as an example, take 30fps. If you’re shooting 30fps, but the HVX is recording 60fps, then what happens is every frame gets recorded twice. One frame is flagged as a “real” frame, the other frame is flagged as a “duplicate.” FCP’s Frame Rate Converter tool knows how to throw away the duplicate frames and keep only the “real” frames.

    If you shoot in 720/24pN mode, or 720/30pN mode, then that process is done for you automatically. If they shot in the 720/60p mode, you have to do that process manually.

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  • David Jakubovic

    March 6, 2007 at 10:03 pm

    Thanks!

    I guess I’m trying to figure out how exactly to do that process manually…

    Do you know??

    David

  • Barry Green

    March 7, 2007 at 6:52 am

    On the PC you can use RayLight’s RayMaker utility.

    On FCP you can probably do it when you import the footage on 5.1.4 by telling it to remove the duplicate frames, or by running Cinema Tools.

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