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  • Scott Rachal

    October 17, 2010 at 1:40 am

    [Scott Sheriff] “Probably because most of them are working their way through school, which helps them build theri work ethic.”

    I worked my way through school also, maybe you’ve touched on the key trait… The hunger to excel in this craft drives you, in school – or on the job. Without it, you get the malaise you describe in the first part of your post.

  • Nick Griffin

    October 17, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    [Tim Wilson] “what Nick did… made him a spectacularly successful entrepreneur without being a weenie.”

    Um… gee, Tim. Thanks? I Guess?

    (BTW, I’d substitute “mildly” for “spectacularly.”)

  • Bob Zelin

    October 17, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    I think what John may be missing is that a big company (who else would have a human resources person) may say “hey, we can get some smart new college kid, who knows FCP and After Effects, and pay him less than half of John Grote Jr. with his 24 years of experience”.

    A pro company isn’t going to the “want ads” to find a pro editor. You put out a “cold call” to find cheap qualified labor.

    Bob Zelin

  • Martin Curtis

    October 18, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Beautifully summarised. Straight to the three-chambered reptilian heart of how a manager thinks. I’d like to add:

    [Bob Zelin] “”hey, we can get some smart new college kid who we can push around, who knows FCP and After Effects, and pay him less than half of John Grote Jr. with his 24 years of experience”.”

  • Rick Turners

    October 18, 2010 at 7:05 am

    And these managers wouldn’t be wrong in doing so, right? Running a business is running a business, not a charity for out of work industry vets..

    If task X can be achieved to todays standards using cheap young labor they’d only be screwing themselves by paying more then is necessary. Likewise, the vet is only screwing himself by doing a job that is below his skill level, right?

    (aka, editorial is horribly over saturated)

  • John Grote, jr.

    October 19, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Bob, you are 100% correct! This is why to some degree, people like you and me get the calls to fix the show that the hiring company paid the college graduate half to do. So in the end the pay almost twice as much or more, because I’m not gonna drop my rate, because of their incompetence in hiring. Makes me smile, because it has happened way to many times to count. Hell, I’ve become know as the fixer.

    And as for a degree, well if I did ever decide to get a degree in something, it would be business management and not a mass communication degree.

    J. Grote, Jr.

  • Grinner Hester

    October 19, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    any company that corals artists through HR departments is not really in the business of hiring the best artists.

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