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  • HPX300 Rolling Shutter AGAIN!

    Posted by Nigel Thompson on March 1, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Hey Guys:

    I’m planning to get myself one of these lovely trinkets (HPX300) for a Travel series im doing here in the caribbean.
    Considering the rolling shutter thing, Do you think it wise to use this camera considering all the highlights with the outdoor sun and sea we’ll be getting?

    And…. Can someone give me examples of scenarios in which I should NOT shoot with a camera with rolling shutter & CMOS.

    Our Red seems to hold up really well when we shot some beach footage a couple weeks ago. 4K is beautiful, so i see no reason why the 300 would not.

    Would love to here your views.

    HVX200, RED ONE, FCS and more,
    High End, Production & Post Production
    in the Caribbean
    http://www.bistt.com

    Nate Stephens replied 17 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Matthew Romanis

    March 1, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    The times when rolling shutter can be an issue are…
    1- Excessive vibration through the camera makes the image appear to wobble. Chopper mounts, tracking mounts, shooting from a bridge that vibrates can cause this if the mounts are not isolated well.
    2-Fast pans on vertical orientated objects can make the object appear to be leaning. If you pan quickly past a fence or post it can look like it is leaning over. Slowing down the rate of pan resolves this issue. Tracking shots can be a problem here too, vary the speed to solve the problem.
    3- Flash photography and strobe lighting results in one frame having half the image exposing for the flash and the other half not, the next frame may have the remaining timing of the flash (depending upon flash duration and shutter speed). Most people when watching this don’t seem to notice it, however if you are after a standard flash (one frame overexposed) then this artefact will annoy you. I’ve found that only when you point out the problem does the untrained viewer notice the problem. This may be a problem for you if are shooting an electrical storm.

    Having said this, these examples are all of the extreme kind. Changing the ay you are shooting a given subject, or making sure that your tracking and stabilising mounts are in good order. The flash artefact is perhaps the only one you can’t do anything about, if you are after that “flash” effect.

  • Nigel Thompson

    March 2, 2009 at 12:43 am

    mmmm interesting:
    Thanks alot Matthew

    gonna be using a Steadicam for most of the shooting, will be mounting a Letus elite on it as well.

    But i intend to use it to shoot music videos as well, now that i think is going to be a problem. Been using my HVX200 rigged up with a Letus extreme, the combination performs flawlessly and the footage is beautiful.

    any kind of flashing light wont bode well for this cam, @ least so it seems. Would like Jan to jump in here as well. Wanna hear all sides.

    Nigel

    HVX200, RED ONE, FCS and more,
    High End, Production & Post Production
    in the Caribbean
    http://www.bistt.com

  • Nate Stephens

    March 3, 2009 at 12:06 am

    Nigel, There are a lot of post on this forum from last summer when Sony came out with their CMOS cameras. Do a search and you might understand why I still think the HPX500 is a better choice..

    And you might note, that it is my understanding that the larger chips the more control over depth of field, which might be important..

    FCP, Mac Pro, Mac Book Pro, HPX500, HVX200, Betacam, Dvcam
    Write for the Edit, Shoot for the Edit, Edit…..KISS Principle

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