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How will the new MacPro compare with a topped out 2012 27″ iMac
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[Mark Dobson] “This will probably be my last big Mac work related purchase.”
You mean in three years or so you wont be making another big Mac work related purchase?
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[Mark Dobson] “Just wondering how the new MacPro will compare with my 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7 2012 27″ iMac, will I really benefit from this new machine?”
It’s hard to be certain, when Apple appears to be speccing the machine around unreleased next-gen CPUs and hasn’t specified exactly which graphics chipset will be used. But plausibly a decked out version of this Mac Pro could be 3-4x as fast on CPU and GPU. More than that on GPU if you didn’t get the 680MX. Plus with three times as many Thunderbolt ports and twice the bandwidth each, you’ve got 6x the external bandwidth. Of course that $6K you mention probably isn’t that far off with respect to what such a system would cost.
It really all depends on what you’re doing. For editing at 1080p or 2K in FCP X, a decked out 27″ iMac is more than sufficient. For working at 4K in Resolve, you’d absolutely want the Mac Pro.
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[Craig Seeman] “You mean in three years or so you wont be making another big Mac work related purchase?”
Well those new monitors look pretty good and I’ve always wanted a pyramid shaped computer . . .
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[Bob Woodhead] “I’ve been considering going Hackintosh for a while…. but now I’m pausing to consider; what’s the impact of Apple writing code into FCPX, or the OS, to utilize the GPU’s in the Tube? Unlike traditional MacPros, they no longer need to allow for alternative video cards. So a HackApple at first boot will have a major disadvantage they don’t have today.
Bernard, your thoughts?”
I don’t think anyone on the outside can tell. When reviewers get the machines we’ll know more. It may well be that, like a console in it’s first few months, it’s the fastest thing by miles for some things. But that doesn’t last very long at all in this ever changing world, and a computer used for work, unlike a console, needs to have flexibility built in. Just because someone has come up with a motherboard which appears to have double on-board graphics, doesn’t make it a good investment. If you have two 16x PCIe slots on a standard motherboard you can take out and dump your GeForce whatever and bung in a new faster one. Need a PCIe add-on card – just plug it in. No Thunderbolt required. Need four monitors, just plug in, and if they get out of date, change them. A whole lot better way of running systems.
And I think I can reasonably guarantee that Apple will make you pay through the nose for all those bits and pieces that you have to stick on the outside of the machine to make it work as well as an ordinary workstation. You know – that special Apple-only plug for that special Apple-only interface.
As for operating systems – use whichever one suits. Somewhere below I said that I habitually have to play with four, but actually that’s five including OSX (six with Android in my phone). They’d be all pretty similar to anyone coming new to them. Windows 7 is currently the best in my opinion, but Microsoft don’t want us to use that any more. Well, I shall.
And on the home build issue. – no-one has to build their own. There are thousands of companies out there which would be more that happy to hang together any combination of components you want. I’m just endlessly astonished at the way the Apple fanbois let the richest greediest company in the world use them. Stuff you read on here often sounds like those conversations you have with smokers, who always have a reason why they have to keep smoking. It isn’t of course, any kind of addiction or psychological kink. Someone wrote on here about cognitive dissonance an while back….bears researching.
Bernie
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[Mark Dobson] “I’ve always wanted a pyramid shaped computer . . .”
The next MacPro will be completely round. It’ll sit on a small stand. It’ll be slathered in ports. You’ll simply roll it around to the port you need much like a globe. It’ll glow so you can find the ports of course. At that point, the design will move through the rest of the product line. The entry level model will be called the iBall.
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Doing your own tech support with a Hackintosh sounds like a lot of time wasting for a would-be pro though.
Hands-on report on the Mac Pro from MacWorld- https://www.macworld.com/article/2041329/the-new-mac-pro-hands-on-and-what-you-need-to-know.html
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For day-to-day editing the mac pro won’t feel much faster than your iMac. When it comes time to render an H264, or convert between formats in compressor, that’s when the machine will operate much faster.
The davinci guys have already stated that they are quite happy with its GPU performance, but it will take many developers 1-2 years to fully utilize openCL.
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[James Cude] “Doing your own tech support with a Hackintosh sounds like a lot of time wasting for a would-be pro though.”
“would-be pro”…. huh?
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[Bernard Newnham] “I’m just endlessly astonished at the way the Apple fanbois let the richest greediest company in the world use them.”
LOL
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