How to zoom into an image that is already within an image ?

[Mark Suszko]

Yes, this is quite easily done in the FCP timeline or using Apple Motion. It’s just using the “scale” control in the inspector panel in Motion, or in FCP7, the scale control under the Motion tab.

You will want the original size footage in the smaller box. Trying to upscale a smaller, low-resolution image up will quickly degrade the image.

If you want a true “zooming” effect, the main image needs to also be zoomed, only not as fast as the new one coming in. Use the keyframe controls in that scale window to set how this works.

[Ernesto Breliere-capaldi]

Thank you Mark, Dave, I’ll apply your method and tips. I suppose then, in order not to loose too much image quality and avoid trimming, that I should try as much as possible to zoom into the center of the screen/large image, and not to corners ? It might limit me quite a bit.

I will use a glidetrack for a real zoom in and so try to save as much quality loss as possible on edit. Besides, since I’ll be using long macro lenses, the natural blur as we move in might do the trick just fine.

Yet, if I want to zoom in off the center of the large image into the smaller one, which would be say a third of the total screen width to the left from the center of the large image, we’d then see the large image moving to the right and reveal the black background of the canvas. If I take it into account whilst shooting and grade the large image’s black parts to the same black as the background, it might do, but would you happen to have a trick for that part ?

Thanks again
Ernesto

[Mark Suszko]

Are these physical still prints you’re talking about? If so, I’d scan them at relatively high DPI and then you can scale, crop, rotate and otherwise play with them all within the editing app. Way easier.

[Ernesto Breliere-capaldi]

Hm that’s astucious… I have to do it with videos though, but I could perhaps find a way around it by using the stills they’ll shoot live (they’re doing both photo and video shoot at once) and a bit of compositing.

I’ll think about it overnight…
Cheers !
Ernesto

[Brad Elliott]

If you are scanning keep in mind that FCP7 doesn’t recommend using images over 4000×4000 pixels(DPI doesn’t matter).

You can import files that are larger but like H264 they will cause more problems than they solve.

Presuming you are not shooting 4K the video shouldn’t be over 1920×1080.
In my experience I can scale 1280×720 and higher images/video a great deal before I have similar image loss to when I scale a SD image over 115%.

If the shooter knows you how tight you need an image shot and the quality of the image is decent to begin with you should have very few if any problems.

[Ernesto Breliere-capaldi]

OK great thanks Brad. Yes it will be very subtle anyway and I’ll work around it with the edit and make sure that the light work takes the viewer’s attention away from the rough parts (it will be moving on the models’s skin).

Anyway thanks again guys you’ve been very helpful, I might post again during the edit 🙂 and I hope I’ll be allowed to show you the final result.

Best
Ernesto

[Sascha Engel]

Have a look at this clip I did years ago.
I think, it is the Effect you are talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRDbzoDKJkA

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang

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[Ernesto Breliere-capaldi]

Hi,
Yes Sasha it is similar to what you have at the start of your clip.
Have you proceeded the way that has been described above by Mark Suszko ?

Looks like a fun shooting too ! Is he singing in hebrew ? If so Israël looks pretty cool from that perspective 😉

Best
Ernesto

[Sascha Engel]

Hi Ernesto,

just to clarify: I only edited this clip, did off & online for it. The singer is a commercial rapper – not my style of lyrics or music. As a true Hip Hop Fan I despise this kind of music. It was only work and doesn’t represent good Israeli music culture in any way.
And there is a lot of good stuff out there. Check this clip, but make sure, you glue down your furniture first – it’s so groovy, stuff will start moving 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qqwtrd8PzA

For your other Q – if I remember right, I did this in After Effects, since you have much more sophisticated masking tools than in FCP.
But basically, same principle: The stuff you see in the TV is scaled down, the living room is real size.
When I did the zooming in, I added motion blur to sell the shot.
I also added some Gaussian Blur on the TV image so it fits the out of focus of the rest of the things in the same distance.

Greetings,

Sascha Engel
TIME BANDITZ Productions
http://www.youtube.com/taikang

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[Ernesto Breliere-capaldi]

Nice one dude I knew these guys already, didn’t know that track nor that they were from Israel. Living in Paris I hear a lot about this place and the cultural scene sounds awesome, I hope a little trip will come up soon !

Thanks for edit tips and all the best with your projects.
Ernesto