HOW TO USE AE7 WITH INTEL MACS

[Graham Jones]

Hi,

Sorry, I meant that past post for “abondanzieri”, not “djackson”, but I realize it may not be clear depending on your thread view prefeerences who that was addressed to.

For djackson… have you tried rendering with certain filters on or off, and checking the other things like Quicktime components and workspaces?

Hope this helps,
Gaham Jones.

[Altdan]

Ah Wish I could get this far! AE 7 is crashing when I start it up – at the final point of start up. (getting that quit unexpectedly window) I’m on a 2 x 3 GHz Dual-Core Intel machine with 3 GB of ram (DDR2 FB-DIMM). I must admit that our IT guy used the Migration Assistant when I upgraded from my pre intel Dual G5. But I have since trashed prefs, run permission repairs and reinstalled (a few times). Could it be anything to do with the way my RAM is installed? Also, forgive my ignorance, but not sure exactly what Rosetta apps and precesses are – and where do you lower memory settings. Though, as I can’t get the app opened at this stage that may only come later…

Thanks,

Dan

[Graham Jones]

Hi,

If you used Migration Assistant, I recommend something you probably won’t want to hear— format the entire drive, then re-install the system from the system disks, and your apps from their original DVDs.

I tried the migration assistant, and learned the hard way — really, it should be intuitive, but especially for pro apps there are a lot of little tiny files written all over the place, which relate to a particular hardware’s architecture. A Migration Assistant works for a consumer with modest needs, when the CPU type is the same. However, if you are moving from one type of hardware to another… I would not recommend it. Nor would Apple— they were the ones who told me not to do it and why. I’m not sure why they don’t make this more explicit in their documentation.

Your memory settings will not affect the app launching. Once you get the app launched successfully, I suggest you try AE’s excellent online help for how to adjust the memory settings.

Hope this helps… Please post back with your results.

Thanks,
Graham Jones.

[Altdan]

Woah!

That’s tough love… I’d never heard of migration assistant till our IT guy mentioned it and proceeded to use it – clearly a bad idea. This will take a few deep breaths and some zen meditation before starting as there is a load of pain in what I have on the machine, FCP, ProTools (plus a busload of plug-ins), Photoshop, Freehand etc etc. rigorous authorizations abound – will be many hours of carefully managing serial no’s , uninstalls, etc. Still if that’s what it’ll take I’ll have to do it.

I take it there’s absolutely nothing else I can try first? 🙂

Thanks for the response
Dan

[Dale Jackson]

Yeah, it’s certain effects that cause AE to crash, mostly CC effects. But that’s okay, I have AE7 for my PC and my new Intel Mac, so what I can’t do on the Mac I can do on the PC, though it’s slower, my new Intel is lightning. I’ll still be awating the AE8 for sure, however. 🙂

thanks Graham!

[Abondanzieri]

heheh graham i wont give you my macpro ..

but i am still having trouble with it. i found my self rendering long scenes and heavy effects as targa sequence because it doesnt keep much frames on the memory.. actually i am now doing a music video with some real footage and mostly animation.. when it comes to 3d layers and cameras + motion blur + lots of particular stuff it gets really stuck.. but still when rendering as targa sequence sometimes it crashes.. i am definetly sure that i dont have any chance of rendering it as quicktime-animation..

so this is the situation.. also the plugins really have something to do with it..

i just rendered 350 frames in 50 minutes which really shouldnt take that much time.

[Graham Jones]

Hi abondanzieri,

ha ha, too bad, I could have used another Mac Pro!

A great piano player can play an old piano and still sound great… he quickly learns which keys are the bad ones and figures out a way to adapt and play the same song with different keys.

I’d take notes on which filters are causing the issues (posting here wouldn’t hurt). Even on a G5 I wouldn’t touch the Ripple filter with a 10 foot pole, for example. My bet is that you can work your way around the bad ones until AE 8 gets here.

Cheers,
Graham.

[Themotion Tv]

Hi all,

I have been also getting some crashes while i am using AE on my Mac Pro/ 2.66/ 4gb ram..

So i decided to test the tip… Here is my results;

%30 Memory usage and %30 Ram Cache = 3 min 48 sec render time.

%50 Memory usage and %50 Ram Cache = 3 min 43 sec render time.

%80 Memory usage and %60 Ram Cache = 3 min 43 sec render time. (Same as before)

%120 Memory usage and %60 Ram Cache = 3 min 47 sec render time. (this option was default)

So i decided to change %80 X %60…

Thanks for the thread Graham..

ayhan

[Psimpso]

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[Graham Jones]

Hi,

Thanks for your detailed response. I suspect you have a little more flexibility with the RAM because of having 4GB installed. It seems 3GB and less really cramp the headroom on Rosetta apps, but 4GB and above give more flexibility. I’m not sure it’s proportional… there may be more at work behind the scenes.

– Graham Jones.