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  • How to stop colour banding in vignettes?

    Posted by Michael Lansdell on September 20, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Hi, I like to put a very slight vignette on programmes when I’m doing the final grade and graphics etc. I used to use a pre-made vignette knocked up in Photoshop but now I use a colour matte with a mask shape cut out so I can adjust it easily for different shots if I want to. I used the ‘Soft Light’ transfer mode for both of these as I like the subtler effect it has to some other transfer modes, and I use it at varying opacity, but mostly between 36-46% I also grade in ‘Uncompressed 8 bit 4:2:2’, and for SD PAL broadcast.

    My problem is, I get weird colour-banding sometimes, mostly noticeable over mid darkness areas of flatish colour. Is there something I can do to prevent that?

    Many thanks,

    Michael Lansdell

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    Stephen Smith replied 15 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    September 20, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Hi Michael,
    The banding is a problem associated with the 8b.
    You may try add a bit of noise to the vignette, or render in 10b.
    If you render in 10b you can add a bit of blur to your Photoshop file (8b RGB).
    Rafael

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  • Bouke Vahl

    September 20, 2010 at 10:29 am

    Rafael is right, BUT:
    10 bit does do the trick, but is not the solution, as your work probably ends up in 8 bit anyways…
    (Broadcast is most of the time 8 bits nowadays…)

    Experiment with noise….

    Bouke

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  • Stephen Smith

    September 20, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Take a look at: Effects, Video Filters, Image Control, Reduce Banding.

    Best of luck.

    Stephen Smith
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  • Mark Suszko

    September 20, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Question: is his photoshop file of the vignette the wrong resolution, and could this be causing banding when it is scaled too much?

  • Mark Maness

    September 20, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    You get this same banding when using the vignette plug also. Whether the plugin be from Apple, Noise Industries, Tiffen or anyone, you’ll see this banding. Yes, 10-bit rendering does make it look good but Stephen is right, most all broadcast facilities are airing in 8-bit, so the banding comes back on broadcast.

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  • Bouke Vahl

    September 20, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    Hello Dave!
    You are my wife now, Dave!

  • Stephen Smith

    September 20, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Bouke,
    I don’t get it?

    Stephen Smith
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