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  • How to split up clips for multiclips

    Posted by Dan Spezz on August 24, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    I shot a music video performance on two cams with three passes. There are essentially six cams to work with, but there are only two clips that I can choose from in the bin. I’m assuming that these clips would need to be split up in order to set them up for multicam (please tell me if this isn’t the case). So I brought each camera onto the time line and used the razor blade to split each clip into three segments, then selected “make independent clip” on each and dragged them back into the bin. At this point I thought that I had six independent clips to set up the multiclip, but it didn’t work out that way. I can see in the viewer that the individual clips are still referencing the original longer captured clips. Any advice on the best way to break up these clips so I can use multicam?

    PS, I should also say that the sync was way off as well after I set the in points.

    Thanks,

    Dan

    Alex Snelling replied 16 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    August 25, 2009 at 12:06 am

    [Dan Themann] ” There are essentially six cams to work with, but there are only two clips that I can choose from in the bin”

    I don’t understand. If you had 6 cameras…six feeds…then you should have 6 loads, 6 clips. Why do you only have two?

    Here’s how it works. You have 6 cameras…six tapes. You capture each tape…then you have 6 clips. Select all 6 clips and multi-clip them. Or if you had 6 video feed captures…then you’d have 6 files to multi-clip.

    I am lost how you have have two clips for 6 cameras.

    Shane

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  • Ralph Atkinson

    August 25, 2009 at 12:21 am

    In the first sentence he said “on two cams with three passes” so I assume he meant to say 6 camera angles to work with rather than 6 cams.
    Anyway, I normally do this by capturing them as separate clips in Log and Capture, but as you haven’t done that you could try Modify>Make Sub-Clips. I haven’t tried this myself but thats’ what I’d try.

    Ralph

  • Dan Spezz

    August 25, 2009 at 1:29 am

    Sorry guys, I was a little unclear there. It is two actual cams, but since there are three passes through the song it yields me six total angles to sync for Multiclip. Trying to make Subclip but that option is grayed out. Thanks for the advice so far. Seems like chipping up a video file into smaller pieces would be a simple operation. Puzzling.

  • Shane Ross

    August 25, 2009 at 1:35 am

    You cannot multiclip SUBCLIPS. They need to be actual physical clips. So either capture the footage as separate clips, or media manage your subclips into separate clips.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
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  • Ralph Atkinson

    August 25, 2009 at 1:44 am

    “You cannot multiclip SUBCLIPS. They need to be actual physical clips”

    Hmmmm Thats strange…. I’m in the middle of a multicam project at the moment, so I got curious and tried and it works for me.
    I created a new project, used 2 cam clips, put in/out points in the viewer, created a 2 subclips for each one… then created 2 multiclips using the subclip files.

    FCS2
    FCP 6.0.6
    MacPro

    Ralph

  • Dan Spezz

    August 25, 2009 at 1:45 am

    Thanks Shane. I just selected my subclips and used the Media Manager. My only concern is that there is some long processing happening so it appears that the media is being re-encoded and might degrade the overall quality. I might be stuck re-capturing. Bummer.

  • Dan Spezz

    August 25, 2009 at 1:50 am

    Hi Ralph, I’m new to the FCP terminology so I hope this makes sense. I’m trying to get all six angles together in the viewer. Is this considered one multiclip? IOW, when you say that you created two multiclips are you seeing four angles in the viewer?

    -Dan

  • Shane Ross

    August 25, 2009 at 1:55 am

    Well, color me wrong then. I haven’t multicamed anything in a long while.

    Glad to be wrong.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Ralph Atkinson

    August 25, 2009 at 1:58 am

    Yes, I made 4 subclips out of 2 cam clips, selected them all then selected “make Multiclip” to make a 4 angle clip. Seems to work fine.
    I’m not sure why your Make subclip would be greyed out. You did bring it into the viewer and make in/out points before trying to make subclip?

    BTW I’m using HDV footage at the moment.

    Ralph

  • Alex Snelling

    August 25, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Hi there

    I am a bit of an old hand at Multiclip. You may be able to work with subclips but if you think about what is happening you might be better off doing what Shane suggested.

    With six subclips created from just two media files, FCP will be trying to access data from each file three times AT THE SAME TIME. This cannot possibly be good for playback.

    You can use reference movies and subclips with multicam but I would divide the footage up and don’t cut corners.

    Cheers
    Alex

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    Alex Snelling
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