How to retain video effects and quality of video in Sony Vegas?

[John Rofrano]

[Tiffany Klaus] “When it was done, I watched the video. The fx did not turn out the way it looked like on the preview screen with the Best(full) setting on. The film grains were very heavy and obstructive to what was going on in the video while the film grains in the best(full) screen were subtle and gave it the look that I wanted.”

What format did you render to? I’m surprised the video didn’t look exactly like the Best(Full) preview.

BTW, you should be judging the quality by dropping the rendered video back onto the timeline above the existing project and toggle the track on and off to compare what you see. Looking at it in a media player gives the media player a chance to change the look.

~jr

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[Tiffany Klaus]

I rendered it to the Mainconcept AVC Internet 1080p template with everything best left alone like you said and video rendering quality at Best settings.

[John Rofrano]

[Tiffany Klaus] “I rendered it to the Mainconcept AVC Internet 1080p template”

How did you judge the quality? Did you drop it back onto the Vegas Pro timeline and check?

If you just viewed it in a media player then you should know that most media players darken MP4 video so it could be the media player making it darker that is the cause for the difference. Please check it in Vegas Pro as suggested in my earlier post.

~jr

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[Tiffany Klaus]

For reference, here are some screenshots of how my project looks on the preview screen and how it really turned out at the end:

when rendered out:

I just realized when it was done rendering there were some parts in my video that just like blacked out and I don’t know why. That’s why I wasn’t able to use the same scene like the other two to compare it with. The rendered scene I showed you is from the beginning of the video and the scene that I wanted to show you was the same like the others like I said but blacked out during the middle of the video. Does that make sense? lol

[John Rofrano]

Yea, that’s really odd. Do you have GPU Acceleration turned on? Look under Options | Preferences | Video and turn GPU Acceleration to OFF. Then render a small section by making a loop region on the timeline and when you render, check the box that says, Render Loop Region Only. See if that looks closer to what you want.

As for rendering black. I’ve had it happen to me. It’s a nasty bug. Sometimes I have to render to a different format like Sony MXF, and then render that in a new project to MP4 to get it to work.

~jr

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[Tiffany Klaus]

[John Rofrano] “What format did you render to? I’m surprised the video didn’t look exactly like the Best(Full) preview.

BTW, you should be judging the quality by dropping the rendered video back onto the timeline above the existing project and toggle the track on and off to compare what you see. Looking at it in a media player gives the media player a chance to change the look.

~jr”

I placed my rendered video above my project in the timeline like you said. I wasn’t sure what you really meant by “toggle the track on and off” but I did go ahead and just compare the rendered video to my project in preview(auto) and best(full). I took screenshots. haha

Project:

Preview(Auto)

Best(Full)

Rendered Video:

Preview(Auto)

Best(Full)

My rendered video looked really good on my timeline but completely different with the media player. From my timeline, I thought it looked good in preview(auto) and best(full). It even looked good in preview(half).

I’m also not sure what you mean by “Looking at it in a media player gives the media player a chance to change the look.” How do I do that? Sorry for my ignorance. I’m not the best with Sony Vegas.

[Tiffany Klaus]

[John Rofrano] “Yea, that’s really odd. Do you have GPU Acceleration turned on? Look under Options | Preferences | Video and turn GPU Acceleration to OFF. Then render a small section by making a loop region on the timeline and when you render, check the box that says, Render Loop Region Only. See if that looks closer to what you want.

As for rendering black. I’ve had it happen to me. It’s a nasty bug. Sometimes I have to render to a different format like Sony MXF, and then render that in a new project to MP4 to get it to work.
“

I just turned GPU Acceleration OFF then restarted my computer because it said so. Then rendered a small section and it still looks the same. Still very fuzzy.

[John Rofrano]

[Tiffany Klaus] ” I wasn’t sure what you really meant by “toggle the track on and off””

Each track has a Mute and Solo button. I was referring to toggling the Mute button on and off so that you can see the tracks below for comparison.

[Tiffany Klaus] “My rendered video looked really good on my timeline but completely different with the media player. From my timeline, I thought it looked good in preview(auto) and best(full). It even looked good in preview(half). “

You have confirmed that Vegas Pro is not the problem. The video that you rendered looks exactly like the video on your timeline. There is nothing wrong with your render. The problem is with the media player.

[Tiffany Klaus] “I’m also not sure what you mean by “Looking at it in a media player gives the media player a chance to change the look.” How do I do that? Sorry for my ignorance.”

Sorry for not being clearer. Every media player will look a little different depending on what they do to the video. You have no control over this. You would think that media players just show you the “real” video but they try and be “smart” and think that they can make the video look better so they alter it without your consent.

It looks like you were using Windows Media Player which is a horrible media player for determining what your video “really” looks like. I recommend that you try this little test: view your video in the Windows Media Player, then view it with QuickTime Player, then view it with VLC Player. I’ll bet it looks slightly different in all 3.

~jr

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[Tiffany Klaus]

I downloaded VLC player and watched my video with it. It looked great. I’m planning to render the video again so it won’t have the blackout parts.

Is it normal for a 3 minute and 30 second video with f(x) and best rendering quality to take 22 hours to render? I set my computer to a “high” priority and “render with cpu” in vegas and thought it might render faster.

[John Rofrano]

[Tiffany Klaus] “I downloaded VLC player and watched my video with it. It looked great. I’m planning to render the video again so it won’t have the blackout parts. “

Yea, Windows media Player is probably the worst player to be judging your video. I’m glad you lie VLC.

[Tiffany Klaus] “Is it normal for a 3 minute and 30 second video with f(x) and best rendering quality to take 22 hours to render? I set my computer to a “high” priority and “render with cpu” in vegas and thought it might render faster.”

It depends on a lot of things. How powerful is your computer? You should have at least a Core i7 2.8Ghz w/8GB of memory on a 64-bit OS like Windows 7.

~jr

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