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  • How to make a “selects bin”

    Posted by Bob Pierce on June 24, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    OK, I get it, no more bins. It’s all metadata. But what about making selects, a most basic editing task? I know I can go through a clip and drop defined regions into the timeline, but that’s not very useful. What I’d like to do is go through a clip, an interview for example, and define regions within it and save them somewhere (you know, a BIN) with some comments saved along with the clip (you know, comments). I don’t see how to do this most basic thing in FCPX. Any ideas would be appreciated.
    Bob Pierce

    Director of Photography • Editor

    Eddie Mcfly replied 12 years, 2 months ago 7 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Tony Silanskas

    June 24, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Create a Compound Clip in the Event and use it as a Mini-Project to store all your select. We’re having a discussion about Compound Clips over here if you want to take a look:


  • Tom Wolsky

    June 24, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    I think the application is designed to use keywords as subclips and selects.

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  • Stephen Bakopanos

    June 25, 2011 at 3:52 am

    [Tom Wolsky] “I think the application is designed to use keywords as subclips and selects.”

    Yep. This is definitely how you do it now. It helps if you think of a “keyword collection” as a dynamic bin and a “smart collection” as a filtered filtered bin.

    If you bring up the keyword panel, you can assign keywords to certain keystrokes, so all you really have to do is make your selection and then hit Ctrl+1 or Ctrl+2 to assign a keyword (or you can drag it to a collection).

    At the end of the day, it’s far more useful and far more powerful than bins – we just have to wrap our heads around this new way of thinking. Once you work it out though, there’ll be no turning back.

  • Bob Pierce

    June 25, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Keywords are fine, but I want to do more than simply add a word. I’m trying to log an interview, say, and I want to go through a long clip, defining regions and type a couple of sentences describing what was said in each response. There’s got to be a way to do this most basic thing. I tried using the event browser’s Notes function, but it applies it to the entire clip. Very Frustrating.

    I don’t get how compound clips will help me do this.

    Smart collections are a keyword search function – I don’t see how that would work either.

    I’ll continue trying to figure this out. I do appreciate your input, thanks!

    Director of Photography • Editor

  • Gary Adcock

    June 25, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    [Bob Pierce] “I want to go through a long clip, defining regions “

    range based selection using the “R” then keyword.

    then use the notes on the new selection in the library should do what you are asking.

    gary adcock

    Post and Production Workflow Consultant
    Production and Post Stereographer
    Chicago, IL

  • Bob Pierce

    June 25, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    Thanks for responding Gary.

    So I’ve resigned myself to using keywords as my only option for making notes about regions. The process is: mark an in and out point on the clip. Hit cmd-K to bring up the keyword HUD, and type the description and hit enter. Then, cmd1 brings you back to the event view (the region is still selected). Now I have to click on the event viewer to deselect the previous region – otherwise it will just loop. Then I can fast forward or play forward and repeat the process to fully log the clip. I really wish I didn’t have to deselect the damn region, but there you go.

    There are only 9 available keyword shortcuts, so they get filled immediately, which kinda makes them useless. Everyone (well, some people) are very excited about the power and flexibility of keyword organization. I’m trying to embrace it, but so far it just seems more limiting. I’ll keep working on it.
    Thank you!

    Director of Photography • Editor

  • Bob Pierce

    June 25, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    Turns out you’re right, Gary. After I set a keyword based on a range selection, I can then use the Notes function to type in. The manual explicitly says that the notes are for the whole clip, not the range selection which is not the case (at least as it’s working for me).

    Director of Photography • Editor

  • David Battistella

    June 26, 2011 at 11:13 am

    One thing i did for this was to’ remai The keyboard to pit the in and out markets beside the f key. In a long clip you can mark in the out then hit f to make it a favorite.

    Do this ten times in a clip. then drag all of the favorites into the timeline for a rough assembly of the interview clips. Uber fast.

    You can then assign keywords to the favorites if you like. But each favorite is actually a subclip. Pretty cool.

    Believe me. Everything is a lie.

  • Bob Pierce

    June 26, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Thanks David for the suggestion. But, aren’t you really logging the clips twice?

    I’m using keywords for logging, which I guess is the only way to do it (other than favorites, which don’t seem very useful to me). What’s kinda disappointing is the lack of flexibility in viewing the keyword collections. When you select it, you see either the thumbnail, no description (the descriptive keyword), or the list view which shows the name of the clip and a little triangle to reveal the description.

    I’m a visual person, as I assume most editors are. I want to log the material, and then be able to visually assess what I have to work with. You know, a bin. I’m trying to stay open minded, but I’m starting to feel that FCPX wasn’t designed with editors in mind.

    Director of Photography • Editor

  • Eddie Mcfly

    June 30, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    how about this? select a clip in list view. after setting in/out, press f. (kinda like making a subclip)

    in the list view, you’ll see the clip expanded with a twirly triangle and the favorite is there, rename that favorite

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