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  • How to get AE CS6 to render WebM without ME/PR?

  • Dennis Eriksson

    November 17, 2021 at 9:30 am

    So, I don’t have Media Encoder or Premiere, is it possible to render WebM natively in AE CS6?

    I mean, I PAID good money for AE, so not going for Adobe’s renting approach, I REFUSE, I wanna OWN my stuff, also don’t know if ME is included in AE CS6, if it is, if you know how to get it, could you please tell me how to get it and if I can, could it render at least VP8 in that case?

  • Tero Ahlfors

    November 17, 2021 at 10:06 am

    You could try the Fnordware Webm plugin.

    Edit: Oh wait it’s for Premiere and AME. I don’t remember how the licensing went in CS6, but the video production specific bundles would’ve had AME.

  • Graham Quince

    November 17, 2021 at 10:37 am

    As a fully paid up “renter”, I get your frustration at the pricing model, but my memory is a little hazy about CS6. I don’t think you can add output types to AE, but you should be able to render out your video as AVI with something like the Lagarith codec ( https://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html ) , then drop it into VLC or similar to convert it.

    My main reason for paying for Adobe CC: I always have the latest version of the software instead of having to save for three years to buy the new one only for it to go out of date within the year.

  • Dennis Eriksson

    November 17, 2021 at 10:37 am

    Thanks Tero, and I’m sorry, that’s my uncle’s name, so I was like: “No way” XD and yeah, you’re not… anyway, I didn’t get a bundle I don’t think… should probably pop the disk in and check (Yes, I still have the CD XD )

  • Dennis Eriksson

    November 17, 2021 at 2:42 pm

    You actually can, I installed quicktime and BAM… it was available in the options right after launching, no probs… So it is possible.

    Going over to using another program though, that’s why I’m here, I wanna cut down on render time, adding another software to the mix just slows the process down, since first I have to wait for hours for the first render from AE, then another like hour to convert it to something else…

    I already use Shutter Encoder since that can do everything to everything WITH alpha, but yeah, if I can remove that hour of rendering on top of the main one, that’s why I’m here 😛

  • Kevin Camp

    November 17, 2021 at 3:31 pm

    I think you’ll want to keep rendering from AE in a high quality codec (Animation, ProRes, DNxHD/DNxHR, etc) and then compress to a codec like WebM… AE (particularly old versions) can’t do a good job of rendering to codecs like WebM and H.264…

    You can render to H.264 in CS6 and then compare it to the two step approach using AE to render the same thing to ProRes and then encode that to H.264 in Shutter Encoder with the ‘2-pass’ option enabled.

    You’ll probably see a big difference in final file size and quality.

    I don’t think Shutter Encoder can do WebM, but you should be able to find a similar utility.

  • Dennis Eriksson

    November 17, 2021 at 7:12 pm

    H.264 can’t do alpha which is 2 3rds of what I render, and also Shutter encoder can do VP8 and VP9 webm with alpha as well, case in point:

  • Kevin Camp

    November 17, 2021 at 9:42 pm

    Thanks for pointing out that Shutter Encoder does do WebM : )

    My comment on H.264 wasn’t that you should use it for what you are doing, but just to compare the result of how an AE h.264 render looks vs that from a compression utility. With 2-pass capabilities, a compression utility will produce better results for codecs that use predictive or bi-predictive frame compression.

    I’m not 100% that WebM uses bi-predictive, but most highly efficient codecs do.

    Basically, I think your current workflow of rendering and then compressing will produce the best final product ; )

  • Dennis Eriksson

    November 18, 2021 at 2:09 am

    Alright.

    I’d rather render animated SVG to be fully honest, but I haven’t found any encoders/transcoders/renderers/converters/whatever that can do that 🙁

    Think I found 1 or 2 actually, but there was something wrong with it, probably didn’t have alpha, sound or something like

  • Eric Santiago

    November 18, 2021 at 2:42 pm

    Boy I feel for you with all this.

    My days of dealing with odd codecs/special target formats are long gone.

    Honestly, have you at least looked into the advantages of upgrading?

    Not pushing Adobe and trust me upgrading of late is a lot worse with AME 😛

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