How to do two ‘Matrix’ style edits…

[Shane Ross]

Effect A….use TIME REMAPPING. Manual explains it poorly, so go here:

https://proappstuff.com/proapptipsvideotutorials/879F6B61-CFF9-4FD1-8D43-FDF89605611A/CD2733FE-EAAB-484D-B6C5-E2196B8026C9.html

Look at the TIME REMAP tutorial.

Effect B was done with MORE than 2 cameras. More like 8 to 10. That Matrix shot in the MATRIX movie…more than 100 still cameras did that, all synchronized. If you have the DVD, watch the extras.

Shane

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[Brendan Pyatt]

Thanks! I will check that tutorial…

I am certain effect B was done with two cameras – I was there at the time…

Here is an example that was done using only ONE camera:

https://www.vimeo.com/2672392

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[Shane Ross]

[Brendan Pyatt] “I am certain effect B was done with two cameras – I was there at the time…”

Well, that was tricky.

Why not ask the people who made this how they did it?

Shane

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[Bryan Banks]

they shot with two cameras on set, but the transition between the two cameras was done in post as Shane was talking about (with a lot of cameras).

the clip you linked to was not the complete effect… it isolated the windsurfer, blurred/freeze framed the background and then used a jump cut to the other angle.

-Bryan

[Brendan Pyatt]

Sorry – I didn’t mean to be tricky!

I was there filming at the time and I saw his assistant set up one cam at one end of the beach, whilst he walked up the other end and started recording with another cam. If I had know what they were doing then I would have asked….

I realise this is done in post production. Can you explain how they would use many cams in post to do this?

Although I don’t know how they did I believe that is done quite easily using Adobe Premiere Pro or Adobe After Effects (which I don’t have!!)

Windsurfing is a very small sport with literally no budgets at all. The guy who made this film will not have been paid much at all and certainly no where near what it would cost to cover 8 cameras….

[Shane Ross]

[Brendan Pyatt] “Can you explain how they would use many cams in post to do this?”

YOu don’t use cameras IN POST…only in PRODUCTION. And again, get the MATRIX DVD and watch the BULLET TIME extra. That explains it.

[Brendan Pyatt] “Although I don’t know how they did I believe that is done quite easily using Adobe Premiere Pro or Adobe After Effects”

What makes you think this was EASY? I highly doubt that it was. I’ll bet this took a lot of testing and playing and trial and error until they figured it out. Especially if they only used two cameras.

I don’t know how to do this. A signature effect that they know how to do and something that sets them apart from the crowd. I would suspect that they might not tell you how to do this, unless you worked with them.

Good Luck.

Shane

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[Brendan Pyatt]

Hi,

I will look into the extra’s section of the matrix, thanks.

In my experience I have only ever used cams in production but Byran’s post slightly confused me:

“the transition between the two cameras was done in post as Shane was talking about (with a lot of cameras).”

I believe it was done quiet easily due to the fact that the guy was paid very little to make this video clip. Furthermore I have seen this effect used in a Kiteboarding video and this again is a field that has very small budgets. Of course it may well be that these are highly skilled people who are willing to give their time for very low return but some how I doubt this…

[Christopher Travis]

I can sort of imagine a way of doing that which involves two camera angles, both frozen on the same frame, then lined up so the surfer is in the exactly same part of the frame then using a long blurry transition between them with a slight earthquake effect to obscure the cut. Don’t ask me exactly how, just thinking out loud really.

I’m more interested in the effect at about 1:52 where we see four or five delayed versions of the surfer doing the jump, but the rest of the background appears to carry on as normal. I imagine this could be done using rotoscoping but would take ages no?. Does anyone have any idea how they might have done this another way?

Chris

[Alan Smith]

The effect at 1:52 is simply mulit layering the clip and creating mask to reveal the surfer on layers below. Each clip is offset in time by a few frames to see the event occur simultaneously. Multiple layers and mask. No rotoscoping needed.

The effect of “bullet time” (3:52??). That effect could be done with one camera. Setup looking down beach right, have surfer do jump. Walk along beach recording the sky line and background using a steadycam or something similar for a stable shot. Setup at second location down the beach and have surfer redo the jump. In post play clip one from angle one, when the surfer is in the air during jump, make still frame. Insert footage of walking along beach in fast motion, adding some effects to hide the crudeness of the effect. Add the second camera angle so that the surfer aligns with the previous angle. The art of this effect is making sure the surfer is in a similar position at your cuts and letting your photoshop work fill in the gap. Take the screen grab from angle on and a screen grab from angle two. Cut out the surfer in both and begin manipulating the surfer to simulate the motion. You could also do the effect more successfully using After Effects.

Alan

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[Mark Suszko]

IMO, that clip was roto’ed , probably in photoshop, or keyed to cut the man and windsurf board out, then laid back over the treated backdrop video for the spin around effect. The vimeo player won’t let me step-frame it to comfirm, but that’s what it looks like to me.