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  • How to control the KiPro via RS-422?

    Posted by Torben Suhrke on September 30, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Hello everybody,

    I’ve just installed the new firmware update 2.0. After that I tried using the KiPro as a controllable VTR-Deck via the new RS-422 feature. Here is my setup:

    MacBookPro running FCP 7.0 feeding a 720p50 ProRes timeline into an AJA IO HD. The IO HD is connected to the KiPro via SDI and RS-422.

    The purpose of this setup is to do high-quality HD to SD downconversion. This was of course possible before, but now we can do it frame accurate and with timecode.
    My problem is that I can’t get the device control to work. There is no device control preset in FCP for the KiPro. I’ve tried various combinations in the device control preset editor, but FCP just won’t communicate correctly with the KiPro.

    Has anybody figured out yet how to set this up in FCP?

    Best regards,
    Torben Suhrke

    Jeremy Garchow replied 15 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 23 Replies
  • 23 Replies
  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 30, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Yes.

    You need to put the kipro in to remote only mode.

    Do you have the network GUI or do you use the menus on the unit itself?

    If GUI it’s on the config screen under 9 pin remote

    If using menus, it’s parameter 35.2

    I should add you don’t need a special setup in FCP, just use the Iohd 720p50 easysetup in whatever ProRes flavor you want.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 30, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Also, you are performing an edit to tape in fcp, right?

  • Torben Suhrke

    September 30, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Yes, I did perform an “edit to tape”.

    Here is how I got it working:

    I followed your advice and used the easy setup “AJA IoHD-720p50 Prores”.
    Then I copied the “AJA IoHD:25 Panasonic VTR” device control setting.

    I edited this setting and changed the framerate to 50. I also removed all the offsets and set the pre/post roll to 1 second.

    In the “edit to tape” window I set the In-Point to 01:00:00:00 (the same as my timeline) and performed an assemble edit.
    The KiPro takes a few moments to react, but then it starts recording after the 1 second preroll.
    It works like a charme.

    Thanks for the quick reply Jeremy.

    Have a nice day.

    Torben

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 30, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    [Torben Suhrke] “Then I copied the “AJA IoHD:25 Panasonic VTR” device control setting.”

    You can simply choose this from the drop down in the ETT window, in the device settings tab.

    [Torben Suhrke] “The KiPro takes a few moments to react, but then it starts recording after the 1 second preroll.
    It works like a charme.”

    Yes, it’s very nice, isn’t it?

    Jeremy

  • Torben Suhrke

    October 1, 2010 at 8:25 am

    UPDATE:

    Upon closer inspection of the recorded file, I noticed that the first 4 frames are duplicates of the first frame of my timeline. So the process isn’t really frame accurate. I tried to compensate with the “capture offset” setting, but this value is ignored by the KiPro.
    Anybody experienced the same behaviour?

    Torben

  • Aja Sales department

    October 1, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Torben,
    For Edit to Tape you should not be changing the Capture Offset, but instead the Playback Offset in the Device Control Preset Editor.
    For further help in configuring Final Cut Pro for use with the Ki Pro and Edit to Tape, you should feel free to contact AJA technical support via email or phone.

    Hope this is helpful.


    AJA Video Systems
    +1 (530) 274-2048 Intl.
    (800) 251-4224 US
    sales@aja.com

  • Torben Suhrke

    October 1, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Thank you for the suggestion.

    I’m afraid the next test has to wait until next week, but I will post my findings as soon as possible.

    Have a nice weekend.

    Torben

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 1, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Torben, just curious if you’re having the iohd or the Ki do the downconvert?

    I was going to look at this today.

    Jeremy

  • Torben Suhrke

    October 1, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Hi Jeremy,

    the IoHD handles the downconversion. I was under the impression that the two devices share the same scaling algorithms. Do you think there is a difference?

    Torben

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 1, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    No, just want to set it up as you have it, see what I see, then try a different way.

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