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How to check title safe between HD and SD?
I have an HD (1080 x 1920) file that I want to play on a standard TV screen to make sure everything is “title safe”.
I used all the title safe guides when building the file but I want to play it on a standard TV to make sure.
How do I burn a DVD from the 1080 x 1920 file without it resizing. I want to see how it would look as broadcasted.
Thank you!
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FCP 7 actually added the 4:3 title safe guides for HD which have been needed for quite some time.
Digital Heaven has the safe title guides.
If you used the HD Safe Title guides, those don’t have any effect with SD, you’ll be well outside the viewing area in 4:3 crop. We have a Photoshop graphic we created for our own work to get the titles correct for 4:3.
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Hi Walter,
I actually used the guides while building the project. I just want to preview how the video will look once it is broadcast and watched on an SD TV. Is there a way to export the HD video from FCP but have it play on a standard TV without resizing to fit the screen. Basically fabricating a broadcast scenario.
Thank you
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This is precisely why we own the AJA Kona 3’s and have them in all three of our suites. Realtime downconversion so we can view our work in HD or SD at any time during the edit. Letterbox, Crop or Anamorphic, all we do is set the AJA Control panel for the output we want and it happens automatically.
If you don’t have something like this, then you’ll need to render your material in an SD timeline and view it that way.
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Wont that convert it to letterbox? Is there a certain setting to avoid it going letterbox?
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[Rudy Shalamar] “Wont that convert it to letterbox? Is there a certain setting to avoid it going letterbox?”
You would have to put your timeline into an SD timeline, Reverse the fields and then keep the video scaled up rather than letterboxing. FCP will automatically scale down the video to fit full frame, but you can scale it back up so it’s cropped instead.
I never recommend this method as it’s never all that clean.
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THANK YOU!!!
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I’d believe the guides in FCP or do what Walter suggested and make your own guides. BTW, Andy Mees has a free plugin (Andy’s Guides) that gives you the standard settings and one where you can input your own dimensions. Title and action safe are defined as a percentage of screen area. That’s true for SD & HD. All you’ll know from playing the program on your tv is it’s good or bad for that tv. In the “old days” when we were editing SD with tape machines, we had a couple of old Sony 8″ monitors that were very tight at the edges, and we’d use them as an informal check for title safe. It’d be interesting to know if anyone has had a program rejected when they used the FCP guides.
John
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[John Fishback] “It’d be interesting to know if anyone has had a program rejected when they used the FCP guides. “
If you use the Title Safe Guides in HD and then crop your show for 4:3, your titles will not only out of title safe for SD, they’ll be off the main picture. You must have 14:9 crop lines in your HD project in order to properly place 4:3 titles in an HD timeline. So yes, you will have a program rejected if you only use the FCP HD guides.
As I said earlier, FCP 7 now has guides you can use in HD to protect for 4:3 titles.
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Of course, you’re right for 4×3. I should have been more specific. I was thinking only of 16×9. BTW, I believe Andy’s Guides has a 14×9 guide. Also, some monitors have guides markers built in so you can check that way, too.
John
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Thanks John
The new FCP 7 release does have 4:3 safe tick marks on their existing guides and they are very much appreciated … it took a lot of whining and jumping up and down to get them to offer us those and although those marks are just a token gesture at this point its definitely a step in the right direction.
As far a I know tho (don’t have an active FCP7 system at the moment) those tick marks are only 4:3 center cut guides and there are still no full 4:3 guides nor 14:9 guides (which is the common broadcast format for repurposed 16:9 content here). My guides plug does offer full 4:3 and 14:9 guides (plus center cross and free guides) and Digital Heavens excellent guide plugins offers the same … and they all still work perfectly well in the new FCP release.
Mine were born out of frustration that there was no easy option for this built right in to FCP and I needed them fro work that I was doing, I dare say Martin’s were born of the same frustration too. Eventually I’m hopeful that Apple will take their own safe guides implementation the extra mile and allow all this directly within the FCP user interface, and completely obviate the need for us all to use any of these third party guides plugins, psd overlays and whatnot, mine included.
Best
Andy
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