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how to capture 1080/30F with a DVCPRO HD codec in FCP ?
So here is my dilema. I have 20 mini DV tapes recorded from a few Canon XL-H1 set at 1080/30F which Canon’s website states that 1080/30F is all interlaced footage with the progessive “look” and 30 Frame mode is 29.97.
I’m going to capture the tapes using the XL-H1 as a VTR into Apple Final Cut (version 6.02). I want to log and capture in DVCPRO HD. will FCP do this over firewire from the Camera? or do I need a MXO2 or AJA io HD to perform this task ? I don’t have a Kona card installed, so if I do need a MXO2 or AJA I will need to rent it.
My editing system is a PowerMac G5 Quad with 6.5 gigs of memory Ram, 30 inch Cinema display.
Miami, FL
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You cannot do this over firewire…you will need an HD capture card.
Shane
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Firewire is native. You can only capture the format that the tape already is. If you don’t want to use a capture card, you can capture HDV and then use software to convert it to DVCProHD. But why do you want to convert it to DVCProHD? If you have FCP 6 you can use an HDV sequence and set the rendering to ProRes. Or just edit on a ProRes sequence.
Sean
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Marlon, as I mentioned in the io forum, your computer might not (and probably won’t be) fast enough with an ioHD. Since you are coming in HDV to ProRes, then your computer now has to trancode to DVCPro HD in software in real time. Your G5 Quad might not be up to this task. If you had a Kona LHe, you could come in DVCPro HD in real time.
Sean, he’s trying to do a 5 camera multicam with a single SATA drive. ProRes, won’t cut it (pardon the pun). I recommended a dv offline.
Jeremy
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Jeremy: thank you for your advise in both threads. You make sense, I’m not going to use the IO HD in my Powermac. I was asking if to convert my HDV to DVCPRO HD is possible without a capture card, I was thinking maybe FCP can do this or any other good recommended software? From what I’ve been researching DVCPRO HD has a higher resolution than HDV and file size may be smaller than a HDV source clip?
I was also thinking if I should just HD downconvert from the camera menu, and edit on a DV NTSC sequence in FCP 6. A local friend told me he does this all the time from his Canon A1, and the image still looks good. My final product for my client will be on a DVD, 15 minutes in length.
thank you all….
Miami, FL
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[Marlon Diaz] “I was asking if to convert my HDV to DVCPRO HD is possible without a capture card”
Well it is, but it’d be capture once and then render everything. Not worth it in my opinion.
[Marlon Diaz] “I was also thinking if I should just HD downconvert from the camera menu, and edit on a DV NTSC sequence in FCP 6”
Yep. You can do that. You can then also recapture to HD at the end (although I hear this process is perilous with HDV due to timecode reasons) for an HD master.
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Marlon Diaz] “I was asking if to convert my HDV to DVCPRO HD is possible without a capture card”
Well it is, but it’d be capture once and then render everything.”
HDV…as DVCPRO HD…without a capture card. How Jeremy? I’d like to know. ProREs, yes…DVCPRO HD? Without a capture card? Sure about that?
Shane
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You would capture HDV, and then you’d take that raw footage from your capture scratch and run it through compressor. As long as you take the raw footage from the capture scratch (and don’t export anything from FCP) your timecode and all of that should get passed on to the DVCPro HD files.
Like I said before, to me it’s not worth it. The OP could get a Kona LHe and do this process in real time.
Jeremy
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Jeremy You would capture HDV, and then you’d take that raw footage from your capture scratch and run it through compressor. As long as you take the raw footage from the capture scratch (and don’t export anything from FCP) your timecode and all of that should get passed on to the DVCPro HD files.
Is there a tutorial for this? I would like to give it a try with a few clips to compare.
Jeremy“HD downconvert from the camera menu, and edit on a DV NTSC sequence in FCP 6” …Yep. You can do that. You can then also recapture to HD at the end (although I hear this process is perilous with HDV due to timecode reasons) for an HD master.
after I’m done with my DV sequence in FCP 6, how would I recapture to HD for my final output?
With my experience this is what I’ll do with a DV sequence:1- export quicktime movie from FCP
2- bring the FCP movie into compressor for mpeg-2 (DVD best quality 90 min)
3-bring in the mpeg-2 into DVDSP and make my 15 minute SD DVD.-Marlon
Miami, FL
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[Marlon Diaz] “Is there a tutorial for this? I would like to give it a try with a few clips to compare. “
Not that I am aware of. You would have to poke around in Compressor.
[Marlon Diaz] “after I’m done with my DV sequence in FCP 6, how would I recapture to HD for my final output?
With my experience this is what I’ll do with a DV sequence:1- export quicktime movie from FCP
2- bring the FCP movie into compressor for mpeg-2 (DVD best quality 90 min)
3-bring in the mpeg-2 into DVDSP and make my 15 minute SD DVD. “That’s the correct process for making a DVD< but it really has nothing to do with recaptruing dv to HDV. In your case, I'd probably just stick with the dv workflow. Jeremy
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