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  • How to avoid clip overlap

    Posted by Harry Putnam on March 2, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    I’m trying to get a job done quickly by selecting my clips from the project media bins in the order I want them on the timeline then dragging them to the timeline in a group.

    They appear on the timeline in the proper order but the clips overlap each other so much the dialog from one overrides or mixes with the dialog from another.

    I don’t want these clips to overlap and I don’t want to have to monkey around with each clip. I want to dump them on the timeline and not have vegas `think’ for me. There is no room for trimming.

    How can I do this without having to carefully adjust each clip?

    The overall goal is to place several (12 or so) clips on the time line in the order they are selected from media bin. Then move to each Begining/end of the clips and insert a marker for chapters.

    Finally to render out in a format DVD architect will use without rerendering.

    I think I understand how to do the last part, its just Vegas’ `helpfull’ overlapping that is causing to much delay.

    Mike Kujbida replied 17 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 15 Replies
  • 15 Replies
  • Mike Kujbida

    March 2, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    Options – Prefs – Editing
    Deselect the “Automatically overlap multiple slected media when added” option.
    No more overlaps 🙂

  • Don Bloom

    March 2, 2008 at 11:47 pm

    you can use the SNAP tool-this will put the clips tail to head with no dissolve.
    As for a format that DVDA will take without re-rendering just render to MPG2 and AC3(audio) in the first place from the Vegas timeline.
    Figure the bitrate based on the total time of the project using AC3 audio render (name both the same except for the extensions-IE mymovie.MPG,mymovie.AC3, open DVDA, drag into project prepare burn done!
    Don

  • Harry Putnam

    March 3, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    > Options – Prefs – Editing
    > Deselect the “Automatically overlap multiple slected media when > added” option.
    > No more overlaps 🙂

    Easy when you know where to look…. thanks

  • Harry Putnam

    March 3, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    [Mike Kujbida] “Options – Prefs – Editing
    Deselect the “Automatically overlap multiple slected media when added” option.
    No more overlaps :-)”

    Mike, When I looked there I see the option is already deselected
    I vaguely recall having turned that off sometime long ago.
    (I rarely use vegas)

    So this project was started with that deselected. What else will cause this annoying overlap?

  • Harry Putnam

    March 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    [Don Bloom] “you can use the SNAP tool-this will put the clips tail to head with no dissolve”

    Don, Apparently I’m too dense to see how this works.
    I’ve enabled the snap tool, then drag a group of *.mov files to timeline, the overlap still occurs just like before.

    Looking thru the help file about snap stool, the confusing mass of information about the tool, and `snapping’, I wasn’t able to figure out how to use this tool to prevent overlap.

  • Don Bloom

    March 3, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Well first do what Mike suggested then when using the snap tool the clips should snap head to tail – I don’t understand why they would disolve or overlap when using the sanp tool unless you have the preferences set to do something else.
    The clips should just pop right into place.
    Don

  • Harry Putnam

    March 3, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    [Don Bloom] “Well first do what Mike suggested then when using the snap tool the clips should snap head to tail. I don’t understand why they would disolve or overlap when using the sanp tool unless you have the preferences set to do something else.
    The clips should just pop right into place.”

    Not to over do the thickness of skull factor but when you say
    “when using the snap tool” do you mean something more than simply enabling it?

    About Mikes advice:
    Sorry, I must have not had enough restarts or something in there because now, firing up on a new project I see it works head to tail, but enabling `snap tool’ apparently has nothing to do with it since it works with it disabled too.

  • Don Bloom

    March 4, 2008 at 12:32 am

    no, simply click on the sanp arrow on the tool bar and you should e all set. The reason I suggested Mike method is just to make sure. I honestly can’t remember how my preferences are set and I’m not by my edit machine so I just wanted to make sure.
    You should be good by simply clicking on the snapping arrow and then bring in the clips

    Don

  • Harry Putnam

    March 4, 2008 at 12:46 am

    [Don Bloom] “Figure the bitrate based on the total time of the project using AC3 audio render (name both the same except for the extensions-IE mymovie.MPG,mymovie.AC3, open DVDA, drag into project prepare burn done!”

    I guess I’m being your worst nightmare or pest…

    Do you mean I have to render this out twice? I see no other way to accomplish what you suggest.

    And concerning the bit rate: What does it mean to figure the bitrate according to the total time of project?

    In the save dialog, after choosing AC3 and then `custom’
    A number appears in the bit rate selection dialog `192′ is that a default? or something left over from previous settings?

    If it is a default, is there some reason for me to mess with it?

    There is no reason for this kind of audio to be in stereo or at 48 khz. I see how to lower the sample rate but it appears there is no way to control stereo or mono.

    It doesn’t really matter that its in stereo of course but just curious how I would set mono? And I guess it might affect render time and final size somewhat.

  • Don Bloom

    March 4, 2008 at 2:57 am

    for the AC3 you can use the setting of 192 the bitrate pertains to the video side and it is determined by the time length of the project. For example a 60 minute project using AC3 audio (DVDArch preferred type of audio and it is also a smaller file) using a variable bitrate would be set at 8,000,000-8,000,000 and for the low end I alsways set mine to 2,000,000.
    For a 120minute project using AC3 audio the bitrates would be (high)8,000,000 – (average) 4,826,000 and (low) 2,000,000.
    If you use the proper bitrate the video will be fine. As for rendering 2 times well you are but you’re not. You are rendering twice but once for the AC3 audio and once for the video at the correct bitrate. AC3 renders very very quickly so it’s not a gruesome job.
    HTHs
    Don

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