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How to add noise in Resolve 11?
Posted by Paulo Jan on September 23, 2014 at 3:42 pmHi all:
I just finished my first project in Resolve Lite 11, and now I’d like to add a bit of noise to my footage before exporting (in order to prevent banding when transcoding to highly compressed codecs). Until now I was using After Effects’s noise filter, and I’ve been looking for something similar in Resolve, but I haven’t found it. All the posts I’ve seen in this forum about the subject talk about using existing grain footage and adding it as a matte, but they were referring to Resolve 8/9. Can anyone confirm that this is still the best/only way to do it in Resolve 11? (In other words, that they haven’t added some new noise/grain feature that I’m not finding).
Thanks in advance.
Marc Wielage replied 7 years, 1 month ago 6 Members · 10 Replies -
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Juan Salvo
September 23, 2014 at 4:13 pmThey haven’t added some noise/grain feature that you’re not finding. In my experience adding noise/grain doesn’t prevent banding caused by over compression, but rather causes blocks and even more compression issues. you can take your AE noise, and render it on a 50% grey card. Then bring that in as a matte and you could apply it that way in resolve, if you were so inclined.
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Marc Wielage
September 24, 2014 at 2:56 amYou can also add film grain as a key. Some companies that have fairly broad grain effects and samples include:
https://cinegrain.com/
https://www.crumplepop.com/
https://gorillagrain.com/
https://www.grainzilla.com
https://www.holygrain.com
https://www.rgrain.com/
https://www.vision-color.com
https://www.filmconvert.com/
https://imagenomic.com/rg.aspx
https://www.artbeats.com/collections/638-Film-Clutter-2-HD/info
https://www.fxphd.com/store/scratch-fx-by-warren-eagles/
https://cinnafilm.com/dark-energy/dark-energy-professional/
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Paulo Jan
September 24, 2014 at 12:43 pmWow. Thanks for all those URLs. I’ll definitely make a note of them.
Anyway, I should clarify that I wasn’t actually trying to achieve a “grainy”/filmlike look, but just adding enough noise to prevent banding, as discussed in this thread:
https://prolost.com/blog/2012/2/28/denoiser-ii.html
As they say there, “just enough noise to not be noticeable”.
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Margus Voll
September 26, 2014 at 8:23 amIt will only help you to the degree.
Making gray plate fro AE is good way to test out if it would help you.
So just test it out and it probably would cost you nothing,
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Marc Wielage
September 27, 2014 at 2:30 am[Paulo Jan] “Anyway, I should clarify that I wasn’t actually trying to achieve a “grainy”/filmlike look, but just adding enough noise to prevent banding, as discussed in this thread:
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There are other ways to prevent banding, particularly in skies and other kinds of solid colors, just by using selective defocus keys. Adding grain to me is a last resort. -
Paulo Jan
September 27, 2014 at 5:11 pmInteresting. How would you do that? Would it imply going shot by shot in every instance where there could be banding and intervene manually? (Because I’m not talking about the cases where you can already see the banding in AE or Resolve; I’m talking about a “preventive” measure, when you have to export your nice, clean images to a highly compressed codec like H264).
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Marc Wielage
September 28, 2014 at 7:59 am[Paulo Jan] “Interesting. How would you do that? Would it imply going shot by shot in every instance where there could be banding and intervene manually?”
Yes, you’d have to do it on a case-by-case basis. Otherwise, you’re screwing with every shot, including the ones that have no apparent banding.I need to make up a T-shirt that says “I Hate 8-Bit Cameras.”
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Juan Salvo
September 28, 2014 at 10:08 pm[Marc Wielage] “I need to make up a T-shirt that says “I Hate 8-Bit Cameras.””
Read C300.
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Mina Sa
November 25, 2017 at 5:55 pmHi Julan, Can you please tell me how I can render noise on a tray card? is it adjustment layer/Solid layer with an alpha? Also how can I bring it in as a matte.
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Marc Wielage
November 29, 2017 at 2:46 am
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