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  • How not to move audio clips move little bit when I change their order?

  • Tapio Haaja

    July 19, 2011 at 10:38 am

    If I change the order of audio clips in timeline they always move a little bit (even with shift pressed). Under frame but it something like -00.14 frames etc..

    Tapio Haaja

  • Robbert-Jan van der Does

    July 19, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Hi Tapio,

    Do you mean lifting them from primary storyline?
    Because then you could use the shortcut Opt + Cmd + Up-arrow.

    Kind regards,

    Robbert-Jan van der Does
    lighting cameraman/steadicam operator/editor

    WISIWYG (What I See Is What You Get)

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 19, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    FCPX has subframe audio editing (1/80 of a second).

    So unprofessional! 🙂

  • Tapio Haaja

    July 19, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    No, I mean when I have all my audio clips below my primary storyline and just for organizational purposes I’d like to have some clips below some other autdio clips etc. And when I change their order (with shift pressed) they often move little bit. Under frame but something like 00.03 frames. Actually now I noticed it happens often but not always and if I zoom very close then I can arrange clips and those won’t move clips. It seems it happens if I have moved my audio clips in smaller than frame accuracy. It feels like bug.

  • Robbert-Jan van der Does

    July 19, 2011 at 12:57 pm


    did you also try to move them with Snapping on? (Shortcut: N)


  • Robbert-Jan van der Does

    July 19, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Ah, see what you mean.
    Whenever you want do drag audio that hasn’t its In and Out points lined up with video (or another audio clip) this can happen. For instance, when you make a L or J cut and trim some from the end too, or when you place a music or VO clip that doesn’t necessarily line up with any other clip. Perfectly normal situations.
    However I can understand that you’d like to organize the stacking order of your audio clips in the project/primary storyline/secondary storyline/compound clip/timeline/sequence/what-have-you-thingy.
    I have found a workaround for this:
    If you have snapping on you can option-drag the clip (it makes a copy) to a lower or higher position in the storyline. This way it will snap to it original. When the clip has landed select the original and press delete.


  • Tapio Haaja

    July 19, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Thanks for replying Robbert-Jan!

    Unfortunately even with copying same moving seems to happen at least for me. I can avoid it my zooming closer and then moving clips. Also sometimes if I just drag from little bit different location it seems that audio clips can be organized without moving happening. It seems to me as a bug. I put feedback to Apple.

    Tapio Haaja

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 19, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Tapio. I’m having trouble replicating this, can you explain it again? (Sorry).

  • Tapio Haaja

    July 20, 2011 at 9:27 am

    Well just put some audio clips on top of each other. Then move some clips in time with subframe accuracy and after that try to organize/move clips to different order. I mean vertical order. At least for me clips often get moved little bit. That’s not a big problem but little bit annoying still.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 20, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Got it. Yes, I see what you are seeing now.

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