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  • How much faster is Mercury with hardware acceleration

    Posted by Tony Connoly on November 19, 2010 at 5:14 am

    I installed an nVidia card (GT 240 with 1GB DDR5), and here is the improvement I’m seeing:

    A file that took 3 minutes to render with Software engine now takes 2 minutes 25 seconds.

    Both were done with Maximum Render Quality.

    This does not strike me as a big improvement. Is this what’s to be expected?

    Todd Kopriva replied 15 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Richard Van den boogaard

    November 19, 2010 at 9:10 am

    Any GT card is optimized for gaming, not for video applications, so I’m guessing the gains will be smaller in combination with Mercury Playback Engine.

    Richard van den Boogaard
    Freelance cameraman • Glidecam Operator • Editor • YouTube expert

  • Tony Connoly

    November 19, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    If you believe

    https://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm

    the gains from the GT240 with DDR5 are about as much as you’d hope to gain from the hardware assistance at this point.

  • Tim Kolb

    November 19, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    I think that people may expect CUDA to have more impact in decode/encode functions than it’s currently designed for… These functtions remain cpu based, the Premiere Pro CUDA payoff comes in executing effects previews.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

  • Vince Becquiot

    November 19, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    [Tim Kolb] “These functtions remain cpu based, the Premiere Pro CUDA payoff comes in executing effects previews.”

    I think Tim summarized it pretty well, MPE is mainly aimed at allowing more complex render-less playback, not speeding up encoding. It should however improve the latter with timelines that are effects heavy.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Tim Kolb

    November 19, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    [Vince Becquiot] “It should however improve the latter with timelines that are effects heavy.”

    Agreed.

    On a timeline that isn’t full of CUDA enabled effects, the encode difference may not be that remarkable.

    (In the top of the effects panel, click on the little lego block-like thing that has an arrow on it and says “Accelerated effects” when you roll over it. This will show you the effects in the system that CUDA will accelerate.)

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

  • Charles Mcintyre

    November 19, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    The GT240 isn’t on the Adobe MPE “Approved List” of video cards. I have tried a variety of Nvidia cards with Premiere CS5 and you can get a lot of these cards to “work” using the hack. But… the lower end cards don’t offer much in the way of a speed improvement. One bottom of the barrel card I tried even slowed things down. Right now the GTX 470 is popular because it’s fast and available at a reasonable price. I have seen dramatic speed improvements even with the low end Adobe approved GTX 280. MPE really is a phenomenal technology when you get a higher end card working properly with your system.

    Chuck

  • Todd Kopriva

    November 20, 2010 at 4:35 am

    Tim and Vince are right about a lot of the speedup coming in the context of effects. Blending modes, scaling, and deinterlacing are also accelerated.

    One thing that people seem to miss is that the CUDA processing isn’t just about speed; it’s also about quality. The quality of scaling is _much_ better when it’s done on the GPU. Details are here.

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  • Tony Connoly

    November 23, 2010 at 4:20 am

    Thank you for that link Todd. I was aware that hardware acceleration could produce different results, but I was not aware that they were necessarily better. Can you comment on whether this applies to the non-certified cards?

  • Todd Kopriva

    November 23, 2010 at 4:26 am

    > Can you comment on whether this applies to the non-certified cards?

    When we say that a card “isn’t supported” for a certain feature set, one of the things that that means is that Adobe Technical Support won’t talk with you about it. That’s me. So, no, I can’t comment. If you use the “hack”, then you’re on your own.

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