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How many here really dislike audio tracks and the viewer?
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[Craig Seeman] “In FCP7 if you had a bunch of tracks with video at one point in time and many minutes later you were just had video in track 1 and track 10 you had a lot of empty space. That would be compounded if Track 10’s Video clip was tied to audio on their complimentary tracks although way down. It was a vertically inefficient. FCPX shows me what I need above/below at that moment in time. I can have 10 layers at one point and two at another and not have a lot of dead space.”
To some of us, empty vertical space is information. Not everyone cuts on a laptop screen.
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[David Lawrence] “To some of us, empty vertical space is information.”
Thanks for the opportunity to vamp on my earlier post.
In X the empty space has no value, but in any tracked system the empty track is itself information – If you use tracks 3-5 for EFX and they are empty at a certain point in time that tells you that there are “no effects at this point.” It’s sort of like the “rest” notation in music, it doesn’t mean “nothing,” it means that there is silence for a specific period of time for a specific type of sound, which is very valuable information to have.
With the magnetic timeline, since space has no meaning, the absence of objects in space has no specific meaning either. 4 tracks that become 2 tracks could mean the music stopped, could mean the dialogue stopped, could mean anything at all.
Herb Sevush
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[Herb Sevush] “Who determines which task needs 2 windows, me or an Apple programmer”
In FCP legacy Apple programmers didn’t give me an option either. If you prefer that method you have at least Avid or Premiere to chose from.
[Herb Sevush] “The dead space still exists because you are locked into the geometry of the monitor.”
No, I can expand other windows. I suspect the advantage will be more significant once Apple allows more customization of the windows.
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[David Lawrence] “To some of us, empty vertical space is information. Not everyone cuts on a laptop screen.”
And to some of us it’s waisted space and on bigger monitors it looks even more vacuous.
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[Craig Seeman] “In FCP legacy Apple programmers didn’t give me an option either.”
I disagree. Of course they couldn’t give you an option to do something the software wasn’t capable of, but within the boundaries of the tools at hand Legacy gave options for almost everything. One of the things that made it hard to use for beginners was the fact that almost everything was customizable and there were multiple ways to do almost anything.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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It’s obvious to me.
“The answer is D (D?). All of the above”
[Herb Sevush] ” also when checking color matching between shots.”
How would you do this in Color, for example? The Still Store and a split screen? Easily achievable in X, and it’s not a dedicated grading app.
Color has one viewer.
As far as Apple saying that a XML translator wasn’t available, they said that it couldn’t be done “with perfect fidelity” and they are quite right. 7toX is great, but if you look at the semantics, Apple is right. It’s not perfect fidelity. It gets you very very close, and it’s extremely usable.
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “How would you do this in Color, for example? The Still Store and a split screen? Easily achievable in X, and it’s not a dedicated grading app. Color has one viewer.”
Tried color, never used it much; but tell me what’s quicker and easier, still store and split screen, or looking up at a viewer window?
Since multicam always needs a viewer I guess I’m just used to it. X gives me the viewer in multicam mode so it’s mostly a conceptual point for me and I probably shouldn’t complain till after I’ve tried it.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[David Roth Weiss] “b) I’d be pleased”
If it was an option, then great! I don’t miss tracks but options are always good.
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[Craig Seeman] “and on bigger monitors it looks even more vacuous.”
I’m using two 23″ monitors but I’m missing the vacuity.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Craig Seeman] “And to some of us it’s waisted space and on bigger monitors it looks even more vacuous.”
If that’s your experience, I can’t argue with it. I personally never have a problem. Well-organized tracks usually have enough going on in them that I find any space is useful to understanding the whole, just as Herb posted earlier.
One thing that would be nice in Legacy would be the ability to completely collapse or hide tracks that don’t need to be always viewed. Adobe has been doing this for years in AE and PP and it’s nice. I think it’s a better approach than simply throwing out the organization benefits of vertical space. Again, choice would be great.
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