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How long it takes from you to finnish this kind of job?
The project diffficulty level for your skills are 3-4 (scale 1-5). You have to do fast based 50 second promo for a company that includes choosing correct clips from 5 hour long footage database (smoehow familiar footage to you), adding textures, color corrections, text animations and some other effects, how long it would take from you to do it? I’m just asking since I got few jobs to do 2 different promos and I have no idea how long it would take to finnish one and I have to give them some price how much it would cost. I have only worked on my freetime so far and havent counted hours at all. So I need to know some average time where people do them and I can then give the price based on that. I’m sure I will work more with it than the hours I say, but I can’t say I work longer than everyone else and ask way more money because of that. I hope you understand what I mean. I’m afraid that I ask way too less or way too much.
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What scares me is the 5 hours of footage….you would need to scan that to get your selects, so look at a couple of hours there.
Next is the edit. If the edit is to music, this obviously takes longer…For the type of work I do, I would put this at about 4 hours (I edit sports promos), but it could be quicker or longer depending on type of work you need to do.
For color-correction, well I am quite quick here, so I would say about an hour (maybe less), but that could change if the footage was bad.
For treatment, well this is pretty vague….are you going to be masking ??? are you going to use multiple windows at the same time ??? If it is just a color treatment, then this would be rather quick, but it could take longer depending on your skill level etc.
As for effects, what exactly are you looking for ??? transitions ??? etc…
Without seeing what the client wants it is hard to know….It sounds like a days job, but it could be more or less depending on what they want.
Hope this helps,
Mark
Mark Harvey
Senior Editor
Le Réseau des sports -
Thanks for your reply!
I have music that the video needs to be edited. They wiill give me their footage and I have pretty much free hands with the video. Those are the things I’ve planned to include. It will include normal scenes with only color corrections (maybe little particular work in the background), then scenes with still images, few different backgrounds, text animations (few different in one scene) and 3d camera moves. I also need photoshop to edit the images in 3d scenes. It’s definitelly days job. But 2,3,4 or 7 days? I thought before that I will say 3 days, but it sucks if I have to ask extra day.
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Again, it all depends on the complexity…it is kind of like asking how long it will take to drive there…drive where ??? And at what speed….
Particular work can take quite a while to perfect the look. Text animation can be quick, but if you are like me you will add layers etc and before you know it your simple text animation has 3 nulls and 15 layers of text. Backgrounds can be quite quick if they don’t have to precise….3d camera moves can be very complex, and I like to take my time with them. It makes me laugh when directors ask for me this, but huff and puff when I take a while to adjust the path…I hate seeing badly adjusted motion paths on a camera.
From the sounds of this, it prolly isn’t a weeks work, but definately 3days+
Sorry I couldn’t be of more help…maybe try asking this question in the Broadcast design forum.
Mark
Mark Harvey
Senior Editor
Le Réseau des sports -
Sakke –
One thing that I have found to be of great help in my freelance work is to always add about 25 percent more time to the project to account for just those things that you are not sure of. Bid the bumped up hours to the client, making them aware that you will only bill them for actual hours worked, and letting them know that there is no possible way you can determine hours to the minute. Be honest with them, and, when the job is done, you can usually surprise them by ending up billing fewer hours than you proposed. A range of hours is always a good idea in your proposal (ex: from 15 to 20 hours).
This usually works, but there can always be the nightmare scenario in which there is something the client didn’t tell you about the project, or there is a problem with the footage that is time consuming to correct. Another thing is to make it clear to the client that the proposal is your understanding of the project as presented by the client, at the time of the quote (these things have a way of changing during the process), and that there will be a range of hours to complete it to their satisfaction; that way you’re not locking yourself into something you will end up paying for. Good luck!
Joe Bourke
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Thanks guys, You were very helpful! Like I said I have pretty much free hands with the video so I cannot say what they want that would help with counting the hours. That’s why I included that difficulty level in the first post. You helped to give me way better idea of the whole billing thing so thanks again.
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Hi,
I would suggest maybe charging a day rate for your work. That way your day could be 8 hours or 14 hours.
Does your client have a budget?
Maybe start there. Give yourself 2 days to put together the first cut and add an extra day for Client revisions.good luck
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Maybe this is a good time to look at stock graphics to help speed up your workflow. Tinting Backgrounds, flourishes etc are quick ways to change a look. The Anvel,Video Co-Pilot and others have a good range that are well priced and they (well, some) come as projects so you can take parts of the animation only.
I agree with the others, 2-3 days from what you say.
cheers
Lance
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