How do you work Without Subclips – then switch from low res intermediate files to high res source?

[Graham Bernard]

Good question. I haven’t an answer.

Grazie

[Mike Kujbida]

Unlike the early days of Avid (are they still doing this?) where you could capture at low res, create your project and then only capture the required high res footage, I’m pretty sure no one has written a script to do this for Vegas.

Having said that, I have no idea whether it will work or not but try Proxy Stream.
It and several other free tools are courtesy of Gilles Pialat.

Please note that Vegas 8 Pro is required for these tools to work.

[Douglas Spotted eagle]

If it’s anything but XDCAM, you can’t. You must first source from the high resolution file and create the low rez proxies around/from that source. This is exactly what a tool like XDCAM Explorer and GearShift do.
But…unless you’re dealing with HDCAM masters or similar, I can’t see any benefit to even wanting this, other than working proxies over the web (which is what XDCAM proxies are often used for).

Douglas Spotted Eagle
VASST

Certified Sony Vegas Trainer
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[Jill Simpson]

I should have stated that I know how to switch from low res intermediate files to high res source files.

What I don’t know is:
*** How can I work without subclips, yet still work with intermediate low res files? ***

(As many of my topics address, there are down-sides to working with subclips.)

[Jill Simpson]

Let me rephrase my question:

*** How can I work without subclips, yet still work with intermediate low res files? ***

If I render regions, the timecode is lost, so I can’t replace rendered-clips-from-regions with full res media.

If I edit ‘in place’ (splicing and cutting in the timeline), I can’t organize the clips, which is a problem when I have >250 clips.

(I know how to convert to low res, and how to replace low res intermediate files with the full res source files.)

I can’t work with subclips because:
(a) their names are lost (I have an awkward workaround involving xml files and spreadsheets)
(b) Vegas projects get ‘full’, and crash when I try to add more subclips when the project is already ‘full’. (See my post “Project ‘full’? …” for details.)

Thank you.

[Gilles Pialat]

I never work with so many subclip, so I don’t know if there is an issue with copying subclip between 2 projects.
I can try to write a script to export a subclip list and another one to import this list in a project.
If you are interested, please contact me via the SCS forum (Rosebud):
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowProfile.asp?UserID=4710

[Jill Simpson]

(carbon copy of note direct to Gilles:)

Merci pour l’offre.

Perhaps I should ask you to proceed, but I am now trying two other angles (the reason is below):
1: Render Regions with Source Timecode intact? OR: Script to replace timecodes with ‘custom’ source times?
2: Solve Vegas’ poor use of memory (brief details below).

Even if I become able to ‘copy-in’ subclips with their names intact,
I have found that copying bins of subclips from one project to a [‘full’] project creates the same [low memory] error that began my troubles.

(Since I’m able to run the ‘Regions to Subclips’ script in one Vegas instance/window, while having my mothership project open in another window, along with 40 other applications if I desire (I tested that), I had thought the original crash occurred due to running the script in a ‘large’ project, so I should run the script in a small project then copy the bin between projects, but … copying bins of subclips from one project to a ‘full’ project creates the same [low memory] error that began my troubles.)

[Gilles Pialat]

Jill, I sent you 2 scripts to test.

[Jill Simpson]

Glory Glory Hallelujah!
Thank you Gilles.
I am switching my working method – so I may not be using subclips – but your script makes them much more valuable – at least in my case. I spent hours trying to copy subclips between projects, with their names intact.
Gilles, you can call me “Jilles“.