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How do you start your timeline?
Posted by Jeff Carrion on July 16, 2007 at 2:14 pmJust curious…
We always start a timeline, no matter what the project, with 1 second of Slug. Then we fade up and it’s on with the show. As well, we always put 1 sec of Slug at the end after the fade to balck.
How do ya’ll do it? Are there any benifits to doing it a different way?
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Bob Flood
July 16, 2007 at 2:23 pmHi
generally:
timecode start at 59:57:00
fade up or cut in at 1:00:00:00
NDF
“2 beep” (single frame visual and sound marker) at 59:58:00
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sometimes TC at 00:00 for prebuilds and sub masters. no leader.
bee eph
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Bob Flood
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Bob Flood
July 16, 2007 at 2:23 pmHi
generally:
timecode start at 59:57:00
fade up or cut in at 1:00:00:00
NDF
“2 beep” (single frame visual and sound marker) at 59:58:00
OR
sometimes TC at 00:00 for prebuilds and sub masters. no leader.
bee eph
“I like video because its so fast!”
Bob Flood
Greer & Associates, Inc. -
Mark Maness
July 16, 2007 at 3:01 pmThere’s no recipe for starting a program. Its all up to your output source. Is it going to broadcast, DVD, Web… Where? This will determine your program start time.
BTW, you don’t have to start with a slug. You can do a simple dissolve on your first piece of video.
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Walter Biscardi
July 16, 2007 at 3:03 pm[Jumpytunes] “Just curious…
We always start a timeline, no matter what the project, with 1 second of Slug. Then we fade up and it’s on with the show. As well, we always put 1 sec of Slug at the end after the fade to balck.
How do ya’ll do it? Are there any benifits to doing it a different way?”
All depends on delivery. For DVD just a fade up from black. For broadcast, Slug, Bars/Tone, Slate, Slug and show.
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Jeff Carrion
July 16, 2007 at 3:12 pmJust about everything we create is output to a DVCAM offline master so there’s no need for bars and tone. When we Online we add all the broadcast header stuff.
One thing I’ve noticed is that if you put your first clip right at the beginning of the timeline, with nothing before it, and add a dissolve up from black the very first frame is not black. It’s the first frame of the dissolve so the picture is like only 90% black, therefor, we add the 1sec slug so the project starts from total black.
“No TV and no beer make Homer something, something…”
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Shane Ross
July 16, 2007 at 3:39 pmI start all my timelines right at the 1 hour mark. No slug. If I fade it, I just add the fade. It works fine. And this way I can know how long my timelines are. I do this for each Act (the parts inbetween the commercials).
But when it comes time to assemble the cut for output, I have a timeline start at 58;00;00, bars & tone at 58;30;00 to 59;30;00…then slate for 10 seconds…then black for 20 seconds…then picture start at 1;00;00;00. Or, when the network requires it, I have an 8 second countdown to 2, then two seconds of black, then picture start.
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Michael Gissing
July 16, 2007 at 8:37 pmPlease make sure your timeline timecodes match the final online and sound post. Find out before you set up your timeline what the broadcast standard for program start is. Then save that as a template to start your next project as well. I am sick of editors starting shows at zero or strange numbers so when we have to online & sound post there is always different codes.
This matters when the editors notes for both online & sound post need on the fly timecode offsets. This does the brain in when you are trying to concentrate on being creative, not a mental number crunching moron.
One editor started at zero and then went before zero to add a graphic. Brilliant!
btw if you want to “edit to tape”, marking your in on a dissolve won’t work. It is not a bad idea to put a slug top & tail. Slug also comes through as a clip in the OMFi so it is a useful reference clip.
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