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  • How Do Nests Work in FCP?

    Posted by Alec Gitelman on July 22, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Nesting is great. It is also tricky. I’ve often found that I can create a nest in FCP and if I later edit the nested sequence by accessing it from the browser window the changes do not reflect in the master sequence. Now I always access the nested sequences by clicking through all the nests from the master.

    Now I’m working on the project where the editors composed the master by nesting sequences from different projects. So what happens now if I go into a nest and change the content. Do the changes reflect in other projects? Or is all the info now contained in the master sequence?

    How do nests work? How do you keep a consistent workflow with nests?

    Tom Wolsky replied 17 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Tom Wolsky

    July 22, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Changes made in one project have no bearing at all on other projects. You should read thoroughly the section in the manual on nested sequences III-416-426.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 3.5 HD Editing Workshop”

  • Alec Gitelman

    July 22, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Thanks.

    I’ve read the manual. Unfortunately It does not quite answer all my questions and concerns. Is there anything else I could read on this topic?

    I understand I cannot update other projects. However, I’m doing cuts to someone else’s feature doc., so I’m naturally concerned. If I can change the content of nests inside a project, how is it different to the outside? Is all the edit information hidden within a timeline when nesting or is it accessing an outside timeline? And is nesting from the same project different from nesting from other projects?

  • Shane Ross

    July 22, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Nesting can get very messy and lead to all sorts of confusing. I avoid them at all costs. There really is no point to nesting that I can see. Unless you have an effect you want to lay across EVERYTHING, but even then, I wouldn’t nest. I’d export a movie, then reimport, then apply the filter.

    Nests often don’t respond like they should…for instance not updating when changes are applied. So I suggest figuring out another method and avoid nesting.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
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  • Bob Flood

    July 22, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    alec

    search the tutorials and other info here. search the forums for Final cut as well. search the websites of larry jordan and ken stone. the subject of nesting has been gone over like bad road on a hot day. there is a lot of info, and quite a few strong opinions.

    some people quicktime export each nest, thereby guaranteeing changes in all iterations of the nest, although thats more of a pre-build or sub build than a real nest.

    If i want a particular section of my timeline to repeat later, or use in other versions, like a clean master or a recurring bumper, I nest it first, but then export a native qt and cut that back in

    to avoid “corrupting” or changing somonelse project, make a copy of that project and work on the copy

    “I like video because its so fast!”

    Bob Flood
    Greer & Associates, Inc.

  • Tom Wolsky

    July 22, 2008 at 7:11 pm

    Once again, nothing you do in your nest, nothing, ever, under any circumstances (short of altering the media on the hard drive) will have any effect on any other project.

    Nesting is an efficient way to work on long projects. Aside from copying and pasting nests, which has its own behavior by design, and some render issues, I haven’t had problems with them.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 3.5 HD Editing Workshop”

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