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How do I put a global effect on 2 composited clips?
I’m still getting the hang of final cut after years of avid and I must say I’m loving it.
At the moment I’m trying to work out how to do something and the manual isn’t getting me there, so maybe the Cow community can get me there quicker…
I have a shot on V1 and V2 with various degrees of distort, scaling and cropping, and the V2 shot is composited on top of the V1 shot with 50pc opacity for example. Now what I can’t work out is how to put an effect on the whole composited pair of shots.
In Avid I would ‘add edit’ at the start and end of the section on V3 and put my ‘image resize’ which would then affect all the layers below it. Obviously I can’t do this in FCP. Also there is so many bits of scaling and such on the two shots that if I want to put a dynamic zoom from 100 – 110 pc, say, on the whole thing I don’t want to have to get out the calculator to work out the sizes for the global move.
Hope this makes sense… Any tips would be gratefully received.
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two options:
1) nest the composite by selecting both track s and pressing Opt-C … then apply the sacle to the nest
2) mixdown the composite by exporting as a new clip and then reimporting to project and replacing those elements in the timelne -
Thanks for this Andy
I am trying to get my head around nesting and it makes perfect sense if I am finishing the job in FCP. However for this I am doing the offline only and will export EDL for pics to be conformed and on-lined in Inferno. So if I nest shots do I not compromise the EDLs for V1 & V2 or is there a way to get the EDL info back for exporting for the conform?
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hmm … will an EDL carry over even the basic motion attributes that you’ve applied, such as distort, scaling and cropping? Assuming thats not a problem, then I think under the circumstances you’ll need to suck it and see, and if necessary combine the options: pre-compose the two clips in a separate sequence, export and reimport and place that in the master. Then when you do your online you’d need EDL’s for both the master sequence and the pre-composed sequence. You’d then manually recombine them in the online.
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Neither way would work totally in a transfer via EDL.
The nesting won’t work at all. You could export an EDL for the nested sequence separately, but that’s not really practical.
The export/import method (essentially the same effect as a Video Mixdown in Avid) is another option. However I would put it on a video layer above your underlying layers, that way you’ll still have the stuff on V1 and V2 that builds the shot, and you can work on the comped effect on V3 as a standalone clip.
The thing that I really miss about the Avid effects paradigm in FCP is the clarity. Using either of these methods in FCP results in sequences that are somewhat unclear – with a ‘baked’ shot you have no reference back to the original at all. With a nested sequence you have some reference back to the edit, but it’s not clear without going into it what is happening there. I can always see exactly what’s going on in a single timeline in Avid, that isn’t really the same in FCP at all.
Personally I’d really like to see FCP offer some way of doing something like the effect-on-filler thing in Avid, which would more aptly be viewed as an adjustment layer I suppose.
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