How do I add transition without Prem altering IN point?

[Mike Velte]

Try putting clip 1 in Video 2 and clip 2 in video 1, apply the transition to the end of clip 1 overhanging the beginning of clip 2.

[Frank Manno]

Sounds like that would work – Was hoping I could do it all on the same track.. Oh well.

-Frankie

[Chris Buttacoli]

No need to use the slip tool. When applying, you can either center the transition or justify the transition left or right – if justified left, clip A will end at the out point. You can select this in the effect control tab, but it is easier to just drag the transition over the edit point, and instead of dropping it over the center of the cut, drop it to the left or right of the cut. You can also slide the transition with the selection tool left or right after the fact.

[Frank Manno]

Hi Chris – Not sure if I understand..

From what I can see, the method you describe will alter my in/out points when the transition is centered on the cut and that’s not what I wanted, unless I’m not understanding you? Sorry if I’m not. 🙂

Basically what i want, is to put a crossfade transition right between two cuts and for Premiere not to change the IN point on clip B and the out point on clip A.

I understand that if I align the transition left on clip A, then Premiere won’t alter the OUT point, but this isn’t what i wanted to do. I want the transition centered on the cut..

-Frankie

[Chris Buttacoli] “No need to use the slip tool. When applying, you can either center the transition or justify the transition left or right – if justified left, clip A will end at the out point. You can select this in the effect control tab, but it is easier to just drag the transition over the edit point, and instead of dropping it over the center of the cut, drop it to the left or right of the cut. You can also slide the transition with the selection tool left or right after the fact.”

[Alex Udell]

Frankie…

when you have 2 clips straight cut back to back on the same track, you full exposing your selected frames on both clips.

By definition, therefore, when you add a transition you will in some way be exposing frames that were not previously exposed based on your original markings

Let’s use 1 sec transition (ntsc)

Applied centered, it will expose 15 frames more of the outgoing shot and 15 frames more of if the incoming shot.

Applied ending at cut, it will expose 1 sec more frames of the incoming shot.

Applied starting at cut, it will expose 1 sec more frames of the outgoing clip.

It has to, in oder to create the effect, it has to use additional media.

so you have 2 choices.

when rough cutting, plan for fx, so wherever you’d normally set you IN add 15 frames then mark in. where you’d set your out, subtract 10 frames, then mark out.

Lay the edits on the time line back to back, then when you add the transition you’ll get what you want.

or

Lay the edits on alternating tracks and overlap them the way you like, then add the transition on the higher track.

This is not a Premiere thing, it’s just the way same track video editing works.

That’s one of the reasons film editors thought video editing was so sloppy back in the early days..you were never sure what you were gonna get.

Hope that helps,

Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX
Younversity TV
http://www.youniversity.tv

[Chris Buttacoli]

The reason this is important to editors is because it maintains the length of your timeline.

I agree with Alex, if you are going to use CS3’s single track editing, your best bet is to plan ahead and mark your in and out points 15 frames +/- for 1 sec crossfades.

Or… it really shouldn’t be too time consuming to continue to work the way you are, and ripple edit each crossfade from the timeline 15 frames in and out after the fact. With snap turned on it should be a breeze.

BTW, Premiere 6.5 has a 2 track editing mode if you can get a hold of that. But you’ll notice the workflow is not as efficient when making revisions to your edit.