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  • how about them keyframes? and how can they track my shot?

    Posted by Bob Flood on February 10, 2006 at 8:34 pm

    Hi

    Is there a preference or a setting so when i extend a shot or shorten it, the keyframes track with the shot?

    ie i have a 3 second shot, and i want it to move acrtoss the frame, so i scale it down and put a keyframe at the head and tail for a start and end position.

    ok now i want to extend my shot and the move to 6 seconds, so i trim out the end 3 seconds to make my totla shot duration 6:00, but my 2 position keyframes are still at 3:00. how do i rescale them, or drag them with the out point? or inpoint?

    thanx

    Jeremy Garchow replied 20 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    February 10, 2006 at 8:41 pm

    Bob,

    I hope there is an elegant solution for this one, though something tells me this may be one of those inelegant FCP non-features. I hope I’m wrong… Please, somebody prove me wrong…

    DRW

  • Ben Insler

    February 10, 2006 at 9:22 pm

    Sorry, to my knowledge there aren’t any elegant solutions. Consider your footage as actual film for a moment, rather than an NLE representation on your computer. When you change your In/Out points, your not scaling the footage (i.e. stretching the roll of film) in any way, but instead you’re splicing more onto the ends of it or cutting more away from those ends. If you visualize your keyframes then as physical dots (like made with a sharpie) on your frames, splicing more footage on or cutting footage away wouldn’t effect these dots at all. That’s sort of a really rough way of visualizing what’s going on in FCP, and I have not heard of a hotkey yet that you can hold to scale all the keys in a clip as you extend the I/O points. Honestly I’m not sure that this is possible, as you’d really be adjusting the speed of the clip in the process too, since speed keyframes are automatically set by FCP with your I/O points.

    If you do find a non-tedious solution though, please post.

    Best,
    Ben

    Ben Insler
    Editor
    Telemark Films

  • Ben Insler

    February 10, 2006 at 10:02 pm

    You can, however, click on the track view button (bottom left of your timeline, between the audio controls (speaker) and rubber bands button, and use the tracks to select all the keyframes on a given frame and move them globally that way.

    Ben Insler
    Editor
    Telemark Films

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 10, 2006 at 11:16 pm

    There’s a solution, but I wouldn’t call it elegant. First, select and copy the clip you want to stretch (and this will only work properly if you have a keyframe at the beginning and end) by hitting ‘apple-c’. Then, stretch that same clip in the timeline (say from 3 seconds to 6 seconds) then hit option-v (paste attributes). A dialog box will now show up. Make sure the “scale attributes” tickbox at the very top is checked and then check whichever parameter it is you want to copy, such as basic motion if you were keyframing scale, etc. This should work.

    Jeremy

  • Bob Flood

    February 11, 2006 at 1:19 am

    hey all

    I tried the copy and paste back trick, but i may not have had good keyframes to begin with, cuz it did not work.

    I did look at the keyframe view, and that does help a lot

    edit had a simlar “feature” with tim remapping in that it applied to ALL the media in the clip, not just the marked range. They were going to improve on it by limiting the scope to what you had marked, but then it went belly up.

    it would be good to have a prefernce to scale attributes to in and out, as i rarely want to end my moves outside of my marks, especially since i can see them anyway!

    thanx all again

    bee eph

  • David Roth weiss

    February 11, 2006 at 6:06 pm

    [JeremyG] “if you have a keyframe at the beginning and end) by hitting ‘apple-c’.”

    Jeremy,

    Please ellaborate on this one. It doesn’t seem to work on my machine. If you can clarify this one I’ll hold you in high regard through the next millineum.

    DRW

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 12, 2006 at 3:25 am

    Okay. You have a 3 second clip in the timeline. You double click it and load it into the viewer. You put a keyframe for scale on the in point of the clip. you scroll to the end of the clip and put change the scale value to 50. Now if you play that clip in the timeline, you have a 3 second clip scaling from 100 to 50%. Let’s say you want three more seconds of that clip and you want the scale to stay with the length of the clip. First, select the clip in the timeline and hit apple-c, now drag the clip out to 6 seconds. Hot option-v (paste attributes) and a dialog box comes up. Make sure the scale attributes box is checked at the top and then check the basic motion tickbox. You should now have a six second clip that scales from 100 to 50%.

    Make sense? Sorry if i wasn’t clear before.

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